The Norris Group Real Estate Radio Show and Podcast

In this episode, Joey Romero sits down with Matt MacFarland and Amanda Han of Keystone CPA to explore the tax strategies real estate investors need to know. From cost segregation and bonus depreciation to real estate professional status and the short-term rental loophole, the conversation breaks down complex tax concepts into practical insights. Matt and Amanda also share how they transitioned into working with real estate investors and why staying ahead of changing tax laws is critical for both CPAs and investors.

Amanda Han and Matthew MacFarland are CPAs and Managing Directors with more than two decades of experience in tax planning and advisory for real estate investors and high-net-worth individuals. Amanda, a UNLV graduate and seasoned real estate investor, is the author of several bestselling tax strategy books and has shared her expertise on platforms including Money Magazine, Google Talks, and CNBC. Matt, who earned his accounting degree from UCLA and a Master’s in Taxation from USC, is the author of The Book on Advanced Tax Strategies for Real Estate Investors and a frequent speaker on real estate tax planning. Together, they help investors build wealth through proactive and strategic tax planning.

In this episode:

• Joey welcomes Matt MacFarland and Amanda Han of Keystone CPA.
• How Keystone CPA helps investors navigate tax strategy and long-term financial planning.
• The journey from traditional accounting to specializing in real estate investor tax planning.
• Common tax planning mistakes real estate investors make and how proactive strategies can improve outcomes.
• Why CPAs must constantly adapt to evolving tax laws and industry changes.
• How bonus depreciation affects cost segregation strategies for real estate investors.
• A breakdown of the requirements for qualifying as a real estate professional, including material participation hours.
• An explanation of the short-term rental loophole and how some investors use it for tax advantages.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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In Part 2, Bruce Norris and economist Christopher Thornberg examine interest rates through a historical lens and discuss how inflation, political narratives, and global economics shape today’s market. They also explore the role of artificial intelligence, weighing its potential benefits against societal risks, and emphasize the importance of adapting through education and workforce training. 

Christopher Thornberg, Ph.D. is a nationally recognized economist and public speaker, best known for accurately forecasting the 2007 housing crash. He is the Founder of Beacon Economics, one of California’s leading economic research firms, and a trusted advisor to governments, businesses, and financial institutions nationwide. Dr. Thornberg is a frequent media commentator and a contributor to major economic outlooks, offering data-driven insights on real estate, labor markets, and economic policy. 

In this episode:

• A historical look at interest rates and why another increase could pressure real estate markets.
• How inflation, politics, and populism influence economic stability.
• The reality of the U.S. dollar’s global currency status and why it remains the safest refuge for capital.
• A balanced discussion on artificial intelligence — opportunity versus unintended consequences.
• Why education and adaptation are critical as technology reshapes the economy.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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In Part 1 of this episode, economist Christopher Thornberg joins Bruce Norris to break down the current state of the housing market. They discuss market stability, the impact of low interest rates and refinancing, growing affordability challenges, and why rising federal debt poses long-term economic risks investors should not ignore. 

Christopher Thornberg, Ph.D. is a nationally recognized economist and public speaker, best known for accurately forecasting the 2007 housing crash. He is the Founder of Beacon Economics, one of California’s leading economic research firms, and a trusted advisor to governments, businesses, and financial institutions nationwide. Dr. Thornberg is a frequent media commentator and a contributor to major economic outlooks, offering data-driven insights on real estate, labor markets, and economic policy. 

In this episode:

• Bruce Norris welcomes economist Christopher Thornberg of Beacon Economics.
• A look at today’s real estate market stability and underlying risks.
• How low interest rates and refinancing have shaped housing trends.
• Ongoing challenges facing buyers, sellers, and affordability.
• Public debt concerns and what they mean for the broader economy.
• Why federal borrowing may be unsustainable without fiscal reform.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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In Part 3 of Bruce Norris’ conversation with Sean O’Toole, they explore how autonomous learning and emerging “world models” could reshape artificial intelligence, the true impact of robots on the workforce, and what technologies like 3D-printed housing and blockchain may mean for the future. Sean also explains why AI should be used to amplify human potential — not replace it. 

Sean OToole is CEO & Founder of PropertyRadar, the property data and owner information platform real estate pros have trusted since 2007 to do billions of dollars in deals.

Sean got his start with data in Silicon Valley during the dot-com boom. After the dot-com bubble, Sean flipped properties for five years, and with data-informed insights, got out right before the housing bubble burst.

Sean launched ForeclosureRadar in early 2007 before anyone had heard of the foreclosure crisis.

In 2013, he relaunched ForeclosureRadar as PropertyRadar, a greatly expanded property data and owner information platform serving a broad audience of real estate professionals and property-centric businesses.

Today, PropertyRadar remains the go-to platform for data-driven real professionals intent on leveraging comprehensive property data and owner information to grow their business directly.

In this episode:

• How autonomous learning and “world models” could push AI beyond today’s large language models.
• Why early breakthroughs in AI are already outperforming expectations.
• The real impact of robots on the workforce — separating hype from reality.
• Exploring the future of housing through 3D printing and manufactured homes.
• Sean’s take on Bitcoin, stablecoins, and blockchain technology.
• Why AI should be seen as a productivity tool, not a replacement for people.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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In Part 2 of Bruce Norris’ conversation with Sean O’Toole, the discussion expands beyond real estate into the future of energy, leadership, and artificial intelligence. Sean shares why power production, global cooperation, and responsible AI development will play a critical role in shaping the economy — and what investors should pay attention to as technology accelerates. 

Sean OToole is CEO & Founder of PropertyRadar, the property data and owner information platform real estate pros have trusted since 2007 to do billions of dollars in deals.

Sean got his start with data in Silicon Valley during the dot-com boom. After the dot-com bubble, Sean flipped properties for five years, and with data-informed insights, got out right before the housing bubble burst.

Sean launched ForeclosureRadar in early 2007 before anyone had heard of the foreclosure crisis.

In 2013, he relaunched ForeclosureRadar as PropertyRadar, a greatly expanded property data and owner information platform serving a broad audience of real estate professionals and property-centric businesses.

Today, PropertyRadar remains the go-to platform for data-driven real professionals intent on leveraging comprehensive property data and owner information to grow their business directly.

In this episode:

• Leadership challenges in scaling reliable and sustainable energy systems.
• The rapid development of AI and the rise of superintelligence.
• Why global cooperation is essential to keep advanced AI safe.
• The growing tension between regulation, innovation, and data privacy.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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In this episode, Bruce Norris sits down with Sean O’Toole, CEO & Founder of PropertyRadar, to discuss his journey from data and technology into real estate. Sean shares lessons learned from market cycles, his perspective on AI’s growing role in the industry, and what investors should consider as the market faces potential long-term shifts. 

Sean OToole is CEO & Founder of PropertyRadar, the property data and owner information platform real estate pros have trusted since 2007 to do billions of dollars in deals.

Sean got his start with data in Silicon Valley during the dot-com boom. After the dot-com bubble, Sean flipped properties for five years, and with data-informed insights, got out right before the housing bubble burst.

Sean launched ForeclosureRadar in early 2007 before anyone had heard of the foreclosure crisis.

In 2013, he relaunched ForeclosureRadar as PropertyRadar, a greatly expanded property data and owner information platform serving a broad audience of real estate professionals and property-centric businesses.

Today, PropertyRadar remains the go-to platform for data-driven real professionals intent on leveraging comprehensive property data and owner information to grow their business directly.

In this episode:

• Bruce Norris welcomes Sean O’Toole, CEO & Founder of PropertyRadar.
• Sean shares his early career path and how his background in data led him into real estate.
• Lessons learned from navigating challenges as both an investor and entrepreneur.
• Sean’s outlook on the housing market and the possibility of a long-term correction.
• How AI and technology are reshaping real estate decision-making.
• Leadership insights and the importance of strategic planning in uncertain markets.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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From local market signals that reveal broader trends to the rising influence of AI on jobs and housing demand, Bruce outlines the forces shaping the future. He also breaks down key economic indicators — including national debt and renewed student loan burdens — that could impact the market in the coming years. Packed with forward-looking insights, this conversation helps investors prepare, adapt, and make smarter decisions in a rapidly changing landscape.

In this episode:

• Why today’s market feels “uncharted” — and what signals matter most.
• Understanding local market dynamics: How local market patterns can reveal national trends.
• AI & the Housing Market :The growing influence of AI on jobs, demand, and the future of real estate.
• Key economic pressures: national debt, student loans, and shifting affordability.
• Practical insights to help investors stay prepared for what’s ahead.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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In this episode, Bruce Norris takes listeners through his personal journey into real estate and the path that led him to master market timing. From digging into early research and writing his first market timing report to navigating the 2008 crash and identifying the recovery in 2012, Bruce shares the key insights that shaped his investment strategy. He breaks down why understanding market cycles matters, how timing influences risk and opportunity, and what trends may shape the future of real estate. 

In this episode:

• Bruce shares how he first got into real estate and discovered the importance of timing.
• His early research into market cycles and why timing shapes smart investing.
• What inspired Bruce to write his first market timing report.
• Key lessons from the 2008 financial crisis.
• The role of market timing in managing risk and finding opportunities.
• Bruce’s outlook on future market trends.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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I SURVIVED REAL ESTATE 2025

The Norris Group Presents: The 18th Annual I Survived Real Estate – LIVE at the Nixon Presidential Library

The Norris Group’s award-winning black-tie gala, I Survived Real Estate, returns for its 18th year.  Since 2008, I Survived Real Estate has supported Make-A-Wish OC & IE—and thanks to your generosity, we’ve now raised over $1.2 million for children in need 

This year’s backdrop?

A California housing market still starved for inventory, mortgage rates hovering above comfort zones, affordability hitting generational lows, inflation and tariffs. Add in global uncertainty, sticky inflation, and the ever-watchful eye of the Federal Reserve—and you’ve got a landscape full of questions.

• Inventory Drought: California’s housing supply remains critically low
• Rate Pressure: Mortgage rates linger well above buyer comfort zones
• Priced Out: Affordability has collapsed to generational lows
• Global Tensions: War, tariffs, and instability rattle investor confidence
• Inflation’s Grip: Costs remain stubbornly high, squeezing margins
• Tariff Troubles: Rising import costs could ripple through construction and development
• All Eyes on the Fed: Every rate hint could send shockwaves through the market

 Our expert panel brings top minds in economics, investing, and housing to help us prepare for what’s next. I Survived Real Estate was born from crisis, with a mission to unite thought leaders, give back, and guide our industry forward. 

In this episode:

• Bruce Norris and Tony Alvarez share their insights on market timing and how investors can make smarter moves in changing conditions.
• Expert predictions on where the real estate market is heading through 2025 and into 2026.
• Final reflections from our panel on lessons learned, future outlooks, and the mindset needed to thrive in any market.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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I SURVIVED REAL ESTATE 2025

The Norris Group Presents: The 18th Annual I Survived Real Estate – LIVE at the Nixon Presidential Library

The Norris Group’s award-winning black-tie gala, I Survived Real Estate, returns for its 18th year.  Since 2008, I Survived Real Estate has supported Make-A-Wish OC & IE—and thanks to your generosity, we’ve now raised over $1.2 million for children in need 

This year’s backdrop?

A California housing market still starved for inventory, mortgage rates hovering above comfort zones, affordability hitting generational lows, inflation and tariffs. Add in global uncertainty, sticky inflation, and the ever-watchful eye of the Federal Reserve—and you’ve got a landscape full of questions.

• Inventory Drought: California’s housing supply remains critically low
• Rate Pressure: Mortgage rates linger well above buyer comfort zones
• Priced Out: Affordability has collapsed to generational lows
• Global Tensions: War, tariffs, and instability rattle investor confidence
• Inflation’s Grip: Costs remain stubbornly high, squeezing margins
• Tariff Troubles: Rising import costs could ripple through construction and development
• All Eyes on the Fed: Every rate hint could send shockwaves through the market

 Our expert panel brings top minds in economics, investing, and housing to help us prepare for what’s next. I Survived Real Estate was born from crisis, with a mission to unite thought leaders, give back, and guide our industry forward. 

In this episode:

• Our Final Panel discuss how regional market differences are shaping today’s real estate landscape.
• A closer look at inflation concerns and the biggest risks investors may be overlooking.
• Practical strategies for navigating high interest rates and adapting to shifting market conditions.
• Insights on uncovering overlooked opportunities and tailoring strategies to specific markets.

The Norris Group originates and services loans in California and Florida under California DRE License 01219911, Florida Mortgage Lender License 1577, and NMLS License 1623669.  For more information on hard money lending, go www.thenorrisgroup.com and click the Hard Money tab.


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