Well Beyond 40

The Phosphatidylcholine Fix: A Game-Changer for Liver Health, Detox, and Hormone Balance


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How would your energy levels change if your cells could actually repair themselves?


In this episode, I discuss with Jessica Berman why phosphatidylcholine (PC) might be one of the most overlooked—but most essential—nutrients for women over 40. Jessica grew up in a family of scientists intensely focused on cellular health, and she breaks down the science in a refreshingly simple, practical way. Together, we dive into how PC strengthens cell membranes, supports hormones, boosts brain function, and helps you stay resilient in a toxin-filled world.


Jess Berman is a visionary wellness leader, cellular health and functional wellness expert, and chief brand officer and co-owner of BodyBio, a pioneering family-owned company at the forefront of cellular health and nutrition. She makes complex biochemistry feel accessible, blending science, stories, and practical tips with a fun, down-to-earth vibe.

What you’ll learn:


02:24 How Jessica grew up surrounded by scientists and why her grandfather believed toxins break down cell membranes faster than we can rebuild them.

06:01 How phosphatidylcholine (PC) connects to hormone balance, mitochondrial health, and symptoms like brain fog, fatigue, and chronic inflammation.

09:03 The difference between true phospholipids and cheap lecithin-based products, plus why most supplements labeled “PC” aren’t actually bioactive.

11:02 Why women struggle to make enough PC naturally and how this affects cellular repair.

16:00 Why modern toxins make it nearly impossible to get all you need from food alone.

18:56 The real-world benefits people notice on PC, including better brain clarity, energy, detoxification, and skin health.

33:28 Incredible transformation stories, including improvements for chronic illness, Lyme disease, and long-COVID symptoms


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