The Sales Evangelist

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  • TSE 1010: TSE Certified Sales Training Program - "BETA"

    Sales professionals who lose track of the fundamental tasks involved in selling don't perform as well, so we've created the TSE Certified Sales Training Program to help sellers stay focused on what's important.

    Sales includes many tedious tasks that, done together, help sellers be successful. The TSE Certified Sales Training Program focuses on fundamentals because we want to help you be proficient at selling.

    Golf game

    Golf demands precision. Small adjustments to your club or your stance can completely change your swing and where the ball lands.

    It's a tedious game, and the professionals who play it every day practice the same shots over and over to become proficient at it. If they don't practice it repeatedly, they won't perform well on the course. [03:19]

    TSE's Certified Sales Training Program intends to do the same thing for sellers. Our goal is to help sellers focus on the small, fundamental tasks on their way to becoming proficient.

    I spoke to a VP of a major organization about fundamentals and why we miss them sometimes; things like prospecting, asking the right questions, building rapport, listening, building value, and closing. When we don't do the fundamentals, we don't succeed.

    Experienced sellers

    I've come across many people who are experienced sellers that suddenly clam up and struggle to do things like prospecting. Fear paralyzes them and their pipelines dry up as a result. [04:02]

    I typically discover that they never truly understood the fundamentals, so when they started to struggle, it wrecked their confidence.

    The TSE Certified Sales Training Program is different than anything we've offered in the past. It's 12-weeks long, and it's broken up by month. Each month, we tackle the core struggles sellers face.

    The first month addresses prospecting. The second deals with building value. The third area is conversion or closing.

    Each month includes four modules and each module includes 30 minutes worth of video. After you watch the videos, you can engage with the coaching groups to address what you learned.

    At the end of the week, you apply the principles you learned, and test the results. We include role-playing and shared experiences.

    At the end of the entire course, you're certified. Now you can go and share what you've learned with others in your organization.

    We're launching a Beta test of the program and we're inviting about 20-25 people to participate with us. They'll help us work out the kinks before we publicly launch the program.

    Role play

    If you're looking to improve your own fundamentals, role play is an important tool. Even if you've been selling for a long time, role-playing helps you improve your interactions with customers.

    A recent guest on the podcast shared that his company shares information among all the team members, tests new ideas, and then evaluates to see how successful it was.

    When they stumble upon a successful idea, they apply the new concept to their own process. They role play and practice it because they realize that you can always improve and you can always learn. [07:50]

    Study

    Listening to this podcast is a great way to continue to learn about sales. In addition, you should engage in personal sales study of your own.

    In the case of TSE, we can't always discuss concepts in depth because we have a limited amount of time. Consider listening to audiobooks as a way to expand your knowledge base. If you don't already have Audible, take advantage of the 30-day free offer available to the TSE audience to listen to books while you do other things.

    If you prefer, you can use Overdrive in conjunction with the public library to get access to free audiobooks.

    Either way, invest 30 minutes each day to increase your knowledge and capabilities on your way to being a more effective seller. [09:05]

    Practice

    Practice what you learn.

    Try all the things you role played and read about and then be intentional to implement new ideas into your process. Practice them to see what kind of results you get.

    We're excited to share the new program with you, and we'd love to talk to you if you or your team are interested in joining us.

    "TSE Certified Sales Training Program" episode resources

    Check out Audible and Overdrive to help you maximize your growth by learning more about sales.

    If you haven't already done so, subscribe to the podcast so you won't miss a single episode. Share it with your friends who would benefit from learning more.

    This episode is brought to you in part by prospect.io, a powerful sales automation platform that allows you to build highly personalized, cold email campaigns. To learn more, go to prospect.io/tse. It will help you with your outbound to expand your outreach. It allows you to set it and forget it. Your prospecting will never ever be the same.

    Previously known as TSE Hustler's League, our TSE Certified Sales Program offers modules that you can engage on your own schedule as well as opportunities to engage with other sellers in other industries.

    This episode is brought to you in part by mailtag.io, a Chrome browser extension for Gmail that allows you to track and schedule your emails. It's super easy, it's helpful, and I recommend that you try it out.

    You'll receive real-time alerts anyone opens an email or clicks a link.

    I hope you enjoyed the show today as much as I did. If so, please consider leaving us a rating on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you consume this content and share it with someone else who might benefit from our message. It helps others find our message and improves our visibility.

    Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    hubpspot.com/marketers
    bluemangostudios.com

    15 min
  • TSE 1009: Sales From The Street: "Don't Ration Your Passion"

    Pauline “Muffin” Grayson is a graphic designer who believes we shouldn’t let anything get in the way of our passion, and she has a single message for us: Don’t ration your passion.

    Pauline has a degree in fine arts. After school, she stumbled into freelancing and surface pattern design; the design for gift wrap and greeting cards. You may know her from her designs on  petitelemon.com and Shutterfly.com.

    PURSUE YOUR PASSION

    Pauline describes passion as doing something you absolutely love without letting anything else get in the way. For Pauline, that is design. She says she is just not happy unless she is doing it. It is who she is as an individual.

    Yet sometimes, societal expectations seem to limit us from pursuing our passions.

    I remember telling people that I was in sales and getting the distinct impression from them that they assumed it was only because I couldn’t find anything better to do. I wasn’t living up to their expectations despite that I was doing what I truly loved to do.

    Pauline can relate.  As a stay-at-home mom, many people wrongly assume she chose to do so because she couldn’t do anything else.

    Pauline is passionate about being a mom, but she is also passionate about design. So she found a way to do both. It makes her a better mom and a better designer as a result.

    Many people abandon their passion because they fail to set goals. As a young girl on a dairy farm in Idaho, Pauline learned that hard work pays dividends.

    She says she is not the best designer out there but believes that her hard work and her goal to continually improve is what sets her apart.

    DON’T BE AFRAID TO TRY

    Fear is often not even based in fact. We worry about what might happen and create a false reality as a result. It is helpful to have someone to discuss your goals and aspirations with; someone who can keep you grounded and on course.  

    Set goals high but also set reasonable timelines to reach them.

    Pauline recalls a time when she met the owner of Betty’s Beds, someone she really wanted to work with. Fast forward a year after their initial encounter and Pauline never heard back from the owner. But rather than letting it go, or being afraid to reach out, Pauline sent them an email.

    They have been working together now for some time and Pauline has seen her designs on blogs, magazines, and HGTV.

    DON’T GIVE UP

    Pauline could have concluded from the year-long gap in communication that the owner simply didn’t want to work with her. Instead, she chose to understand and empathize that they are busy with their work and their families, or that maybe the timing wasn’t right, etc.

    Pauline chose to share and offer value and it paid off.

      There is room for everyone to be successful. Find people who do what you do and ask them for advice. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. #AskQuestions

    CLICK TO TWEET

     

    From doing this podcast, for example, I’ve been introduced to many more people and opportunities than I ever would have if I hadn’t put myself out there. You have to get out and share.

    Do what you love and put it out there for people to see.

    FINDING YOUR PASSION

    Pauline always had an interest in art but as a young girl on a dairy farm, all she really knew was that she liked to draw. It wasn’t until high school, with the encouragement from her art teacher, that she started taking art classes. Soon afterward, she attended a business conference where she heard a graphic designer speak.

    The spark was lit. She knew that was what she wanted to do.

    She remembers being awful in so many of her classes. It just didn’t click until her very last class in college but she worked at it and eventually figured it out.

    She began working as a freelancer, designing gift bags for Target, after being laid off from her first office job when the company was bought out.

    With the confidence she gained from seeing her products on display in a huge retail setting, Pauline started a blog to post more items that she had designed. It was there that she got the call from Petite Lemon and Shutterfly.

    Put yourself out there. Don’t worry about whether it will be liked by everyone or not.

    Do what you love.

    “The work you do while you procrastinate is probably the work you should be doing for the rest of your life.”  

    To Pauline, that is the best piece of advice because that ‘other thing’ that you choose to do may just be your passion.

    Find a way to do what you love. Be happy!

    “DON’T RATION YOUR PASSION” EPISODE RESOURCES

    You can reach Pauline “Muffin” Grayson at muffingraysondesign on Instagram or through her website at www.muffingrayson.com. You can also find her on Pinterest and LinkedIn.

    This episode is brought to you in part by mailtag.io, a Chrome browser extension for Gmail that allows you to track and schedule your emails. It’s super easy, it’s helpful, and I recommend that you try it out.

    They are offering a 14-day free trial, and half off your subscription when you use the code Donald at checkout.

    This episode is brought to you in part by prospect.io, a powerful sales automation platform that allows you to build highly personalized, cold email campaigns. To learn more, go to prospect.io/tse. It will help you with your outbound to expand your outreach. It allows you to set it and forget it. Your prospecting will never ever be the same.

    Previously known as TSE Hustler’s League, our TSE Certified Sales Program offers modules that you can engage on your own schedule as well as opportunities to engage with other sellers in other industries.

    I hope you enjoyed the show today as much as I did. If so, please consider leaving us a rating on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you consume this content and share it with someone else who might benefit from our message. It helps others find our message and improves our visibility.

    If you haven’t already done so, subscribe to the podcast so you won’t miss a single episode, and share with your friends!

    Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    hubpspot.com/marketers
    bluemangostudios.com

    32 min
  • TSE 1008: Plan, Prepare & Refuse To Give Up
    Today we’re talking about how to Plan, Prepare and Refuse to Give Up with podcast host, branding expert, and author Henry Kaminski, Jr.

    Henry is the founder of Unique Designz, a full-service design, branding and digital marketing agency dedicated to helping authority brands; coaches, consultants, influencers, speakers and authors to scale their expertise and personal brands into profitable business models.

    Henry started twelve years ago as a freelance graphic designer, eventually growing his business into a mature, boutique brand development agency.  His average client is typically worth $50-100K over a calendar year.

    But Henry remembers not so long ago when he was working for Fiverr. As sales reps, we know how it feels to want to get to the top as quickly as possible. We think it will be easy but then it is not long before we hit the hiccups.

    PLAN AND PREPARE

    Henry says it all comes down to preparation. He credits himself with once being the worst salesman on the planet.

    These days, Henry follows a very specific, tried and true script that he practices on a weekly basis. He does not deviate from that script and, as such, he is closing more and more sales.

    People perceive our value based on the questions we ask so planning ahead of time what to say is key. As Henry says “asking stupid questions only gets you stupid answers.” You will be perceived as an amateur.

    As a brand strategist and brand developer, Henry wants to position his clients to become subject matter experts.  He wants people to be on the edge of their seats whenever one of his clients is speaking. It is all about positioning and that comes with preparation.

    Do your research on your client. Know as much about them before you make the call.

    This is a lesson Henry learned the hard way.

    You have to know the answers to the questions but you will want to challenge the person that you are speaking to. There is no value in telling the client what they already know.

    Let your client know that you may ask them some tough questions – questions they maybe haven’t about thought before. Be sure they understand that your intent is not to pry but to get to the root of the issues in order to be the most helpful.

    BE INTENTIONAL

    Henry became intentional with his desire to start his own business after Hurricane Sandy blew through New Jersey and wiped out two of his biggest clients. Henry tried to continue living the lifestyle to which he had become accustomed but with a revenue loss of a quarter of a million dollars, it just wasn’t possible.

    At the same time, Fiverr entered the design world and disrupted the entire industry. Henry couldn’t beat them so he joined them. But it wasn’t a sustainable position.

    He remembers a $120 paycheck for over 90 hours of work and he remembers earning $5 for six hours of revisions on a business card.

    And he remembers telling his wife that they needed to make a change.

    She got out the laptop and said, “Let’s get to work.”

    Henry started working with a mentor, Russell Brunson. He couldn’t afford to pay for the coaching program but he couldn’t afford not to, either. So he maxed out his credit card and got on the phone with Russell.

    At the end of the one-hour call, they were both crying hysterically as Henry was hired on the spot to help with Russell’s first book launch.

    That gave Henry the confidence boost he needed. It was the biggest sale he ever made and it led to another job with Russell a few months later.

    More importantly, Henry received the most important tidbit of insight from Russell. Despite all his fancy websites and great designs, Henry himself was nowhere to be found on any of it.

    His big personality was hiding behind the logo.

    That has all changed now and Henry doesn’t regret it for a minute. He has found his lane. Content creation and working one-on-one with the clients is where he wants to stay.

    GET SEEN

    As a podcast host, myself, I can relate. People came to my webpage and listened to my podcast, but if they wanted to see me, they couldn’t. It was all stock photographs. I had to put myself out there. I had to make myself available for my audience.

    We shouldn’t diminish ourselves. We need to put ourselves first and refuse to give up. I used to be intimidated and afraid that maybe I didn’t look good on camera or that seeing my brand was better than seeing the real me.

    Rather, your personal brand is just an offset of your business. If you are shy and timid, it will show in your messaging. Don’t be afraid of yourself.

    Even the bigger brands, according to Henry, are coming out of their shells. The only difference between you and everybody else is you! You have to invest in your personal brand. It’s critical.

    REFUSE TO GIVE UP

    Henry credits his unwillingness to give up to his parents who tried for 16 years to become pregnant with Henry. His Mom would call him her ‘miracle baby.’ Henry believes that hearing that story while growing up – that his parents refused to give up for over 16 years – is what fuels his drive now.

    There are so many times when we try something once or twice and quit when it doesn’t go our way. His parent relentlessly pursued their goal for 16 years.

    If you are feeling uncertain or hesitant when looking forward because of past difficulties, Henry recommends you remember that it is all a numbers game. He once went three months without one single sale. He kept looking back and beating himself up over what he might have done differently.

    His mentor reminded him that a rearview window is smaller than a windshield for a reason – because you are not going that way.

    Any setback is temporary. It’s like a storm passing through town. It might be a struggle but it will pass.

    Have confidence in your preparations and see them through.

    “PLAN, PREPARE AND REFUSE TO GIVE UP” EPISODE RESOURCES

    Henry is very active on Instagram and can be found at thebranddr and on his website Unique Designz.

    Grab a copy of his book Refuse to Give Up and connect with him at Brand Doctor’s podcast.

    This episode is brought to you in part by prospect.io, a powerful sales automation platform that allows you to build highly personalized, cold email campaigns. To learn more, go to prospect.io/tse. It will help you with your outbound to expand your outreach. It allows you to set it and forget it. Your prospecting will never ever be the same.

    Previously known as TSE Hustler’s League, our TSE Certified Sales Program offers modules that you can engage on your own schedule as well as opportunities to engage with other sellers in other industries.

    This episode is brought to you in part by mailtag.io, a Chrome browser extension for Gmail that allows you to track and schedule your emails. It’s super easy, it’s helpful, and I recommend that you try it out.

    You’ll receive real-time alerts anyone opens an email or clicks a link.

    I hope you enjoyed the show today as much as I did. If so, please consider leaving us a rating on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you consume this content and share it with someone else who might benefit from our message. It helps others find our message and improves our visibility.

    If you haven’t already done so, subscribe to the podcast so you won’t miss a single episode, and share with your friends!

    Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    hubpspot.com/marketers
    bluemangostudios.com

    34 min
  • TSE 1008: Plan, Prepare & Refuse To Give Up
    Many of us have been dealt a bad hand in our life once or twice before. But that should not stop us from moving forward with our dreams. In today's episode, Henry Kaminski, "The Brand Doctor", will share with you what you should do when things are NOT going so well.
    33 min
  • TSE 1007: Is It Possible To Have A "Perfect Day" In Sales?

    Is it possible to have a “perfect day” in sales? Phone calls from prospects just as soon as you walk into the office … demonstrations are set … proposal reviews are awesome; everything is smooth sailing.

    What would it take to have that perfect day in sales? Do we have control over any of the elements?  I think so.

    In this episode of The Sales Evangelist, I will share something valuable that I learned over the weekend that can help us all accomplish the perfect day in sales. [0:00]

    Perfection doesn’t happen by accident

    There was an awesome older lady in our congregation who recently passed away. During the eulogy, her daughter shared a story about her mom who was, apparently, quite a perfectionist.

    She always looked great. Everything was always on point.

    One day when the daughter was leaving for school, the mother noticed that the daughter had only ironed the front side of her skirt. As the daughter explains, she didn’t see any reason to iron the back of the skirt because she was going to be sitting down at school, nobody was going to see it. It just didn’t matter.

    Her mother disagreed and told her,  “Perfection doesn’t happen by accident.” [02:46]

    She was right. If you want something to work out well, it isn't going to happen by accident. The perfect job, the perfect marriage - the perfect day in sales - do not happen by accident. You have to do something to make it work.

    None of us will be perfect but we can get close. We can get results if we put in the work.  

    Michael Phelps, for example, imagined in his mind the perfect swim meet before every competition. He knew what it would feel like to win - to have the perfect race. He practiced for perfection and it is no accident that he became the best swimmer in the world. [03:33]

    Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Serena Williams, Oprah Winfrey, Steve Jobs, Usain Bolt, Mother Teresa ... They are all arguably the best in their chosen fields because they put in the work.

    Aim for the perfect day

    Imagine the most amazing appointments and demonstrations on the schedule. Proposal reviews, closing calls, deals closing left and right … It can happen. It won’t be perfect, maybe a few will need to reschedule, but it will be pretty darn close. [04:56]

    Certainly you’ve noticed the sellers in your organization who always seem to have the perfect day; everything always seems to work out for them.  How do they do it?

    They are prepared. They know that the perfect day in sales will not happen by accident.

    Do all you can now to have appointments for next month. Maybe that means going early to the office to respond to the leads that came in overnight and get ahead of the competition. Make the calls. Make the follow-ups.

    Do the work so the results will come. The perfect day in sales will come.

    Perfection requires sacrifice

    It takes time and it takes sacrifice. You have to be willing to sacrifice the ‘now’ to earn enjoyment later. [05:25]

    I could spend my entire lunch break chit chatting with my buddies in the break room every day, or I could give up one or two of those days and focus on returning emails, or reaching out to folks on LinkedIn instead. [06:40]

    We just published our 1,000th episode. That is five years worth of content and we’ve been fortunate to be covered by Huffington Post, Hubspot and Entrepreneurial Magazine.

    Some people might think that we just got lucky. But in truth, it happened because we put in the work. When this first started, I also worked a full-time day job.

    I used my lunch break to schedule podcast interviews. Then, I would find park my car near a spot with good WiFi and record interviews with my guests over Skype.

    I could have easily decided that it was too time-consuming or too much work. I could have chosen to hang with my buddies over lunch.  Instead I made the necessary sacrifices and it paid off. [07:04]

    Sacrifice, not luck

    As a salesman, I became of the top performers in my company. Again, not because I was lucky or because management liked me more.

    It was because I went to work early, I studied the sales content, I understood the sales process. I learned from the different departments and I made sure I knew what was happening in the industry.

    To educate myself, I studied past deals and read case studies. I knew what the directors wanted and I knew what my competition was doing. I called more people and set more appointments. [08:26]/

    Again, perfection doesn’t come by accident.

    My company and my podcast aren’t perfect but we are striving for it every day. We put in the work towards reaching the perfect result, the perfect company, the perfect podcast.

    Put in the hustle. This is not a New Year’s Resolution type thing that lasts a few months. It has to be a desire. You have to want to achieve the perfect day in sales.

    If you don’t know where to start, look for the people in your group that are succeeding and ask them for advice. If you can’t find anyone like that, come to me. I am always more than happy to share what I’ve done, what I see clients do, how I help people, etc. [09:07]

    It is going to take work. It is going to take sacrifice.

    Thank you to Evelyn Terry. She was an amazing woman. Perfection doesn’t come by accident. Evelyn left a legacy and a fire burning.

    "Perfect Day in Sales" episode resources

    Email me at [email protected] or on LinkedIn. I’m also on Instagram and Twitter. 

    This episode is brought to you in part by mailtag.io, a Chrome browser extension for Gmail that allows you to track and schedule your emails. It's super easy, it's helpful, and I recommend that you try it out.

    They are offering a 14-day free trial, and half off your subscription when you use the code Donald at checkout.

    This episode is brought to you in part by prospect.io, a powerful sales automation platform that allows you to build highly personalized, cold email campaigns. To learn more, go to prospect.io/tse. It will help you with your outbound to expand your outreach. It allows you to set it and forget it. Your prospecting will never ever be the same.

    Previously known as TSE Hustler's League, our TSE Certified Sales Program offers modules that you can engage on your own schedule as well as opportunities to engage with other sellers in other industries.

    I hope you enjoyed the show today as much as I did. If so, please consider leaving us a rating on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you consume this content and share it with someone else who might benefit from our message. It helps others find our message and improves our visibility.

    If you haven't already done so, subscribe to the podcastso you won't miss a single episode, and share with your friends!

    Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    hubpspot.com/marketers
    bluemangostudios.com

    14 min
  • TSE 1006: Immediate Steps You Can Take To Begin Growing Your Influence

    In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, we discuss the immediate steps you can take to begin growing your influence.  Whether you are in sales or not, everyone, at one time or another, needs to increase their influence.

    I’m reminded of a coworker of mine who really knew how to connect with people. Tom had that ability to influence others.

    He just understood people and prospects and he knew how to speak to them. He could point out potential problems before they became problems. As such, when he spoke, his clients listened. He was respected.

    My guest today, Stacey Hanke, is here to talk about how we, like Tom, can grow our influence. [00:01]

    Stacey is the author of two books, a Certified Speaking Professional, and CEO of StaceyHanke, Inc.

    Stacey and her team work with directors, to C-Suite, and with sales professionals to make them more aware of the level of influence they really have versus they level of influence they believe they have. They accomplish this with keynotes, with mentoring, and through workshops.

    They increase awareness by giving practical how-to advice so their clients know how to use both verbal and non-verbal methods of influence every day of the week. [03:25]

    INFLUENCE: WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT ISN’T

    Stacey has worked with a lot of individuals and organizations over the past 16 years. And though she sees it happen quite often, Stacey believes that influence is not something that you should turn on and off.

    For example, you’ve got a high stakes phone conversation, meeting or sales pitch and you decide to ‘turn it on.’ 

    There’s nothing authentic about that. There’s no integrity to it. [04:46]

    Influence is when your verbal and non-verbal communication remain consistent at all times and in all situations. It is congruent with your priorities and purposes.

    Influence is having the ability to move people to take action long after the interaction has occurred.  

    It takes discipline and hard work. It is hard because we often get caught up with worrying about how we are perceived. Will they like me? Am I going to say the right thing?

    Switch your thinking. What is important to my client? What is their experience with the topic? Why is this conversation happening?

    To really drive home the value of your product or your service – whatever you’re trying to influence the person to act on – it first has to resonate with the client. [05:36]

    So, be genuine.

    Stacey recently helped a client to realize that he was putting more time into marketing materials and PowerPoint slides than into the actual delivery of the product. It is not the experience his clients were looking for. [06:46]

    FEEDBACK: WHY YOU NEED IT.

    As a sales rep, one of the first steps to increase your influence is to ask for real feedback. You have to plan for it and ask for it.

    Ask someone who you can count on to tell you the truth to listen to you as you practice. Ask them to listen, pay attention and give you feedback. When you can prepare in this way, the person providing the feedback is more likely to be direct and constructive with their comments.

    We don’t need to be told how great we are.

    We have to figure out our weaknesses in order to grow. It takes discipline to handle feedback and even more discipline to act on it. Don’t sabotage yourself by asking a subordinate or someone who is likely to tell you what you want to hear, instead of what you need to hear.

    Put your pride aside. Strive for honest answers. [07:39]

    Stacey has encountered many in her workshops who are hesitant to pursue feedback. She attributes this to the stigma that surrounds feedback as meaning you’ve done something wrong.

    Feedback instead means that you are already doing well. You wouldn’t be in the position you are in if you didn’t know what you were doing. Feedback provides opportunity to become even better. It encourages constant growth. [09:41]

    LEADERSHIP

    In a study conducted by Joseph Folkman of over 51,000 leaders, it was realized that leaders who frequently ask for feedback rank in the top 86% for leadership effectiveness. On the other hand, leaders who rank in the bottom 15% for leadership effectiveness are in the bottom 10% when it comes to asking for feedback. [10:20]

    So how does this translate to working with a prospect?

    Stacey reaches out to her clients every three or six months to find out what has been working for them during that time. She frequently asks her clients why they continue to work with her team. What keeps them coming back?

    Then she flips the coin. What can her team do to make things easier? How can they provide more value on a long-term basis?  This allows the client to tell you how best to upsell them by letting you know what other services they might want or need.

    Your clients can disappear at any point but if you deliver the value that you promise and you truly care about your clients, then the ability to upsell based on their feedback provides a service to them. [11:31]

    Being influential is not the same as being manipulative. The more you practice asking for, setting up, receiving, and dealing with feedback, the more you’ll start to crave it.

    It sounds crazy but sometimes the feedback is completely different from how you felt during the conversation or how you thought you came across.

    Sometimes feedback can be harsh.

    But the toughest feedback often comes during periods of growth or transition. You might hate it at the time but it will help you grow. [13:42]

    GET COMFORTABLE WITH BECOMING UNCOMFORTABLE

    Feedback can be hard to embrace if it requires a change that takes us out of our comfort zone.  Make feedback common practice. You can apply it to everything in life. The more uncomfortable you get, the faster you grow.

    Once you get over the hurdles, once you stop hitting your knees every time, you will start to see improvement.

    Staying in our comfort zone only makes us lazy. Resting on our laurels or believing that we already know everything comes across in our performance.

    When you are feeling strong and landing deals, Stacey says that is the time to feel uncomfortable. Work hard even when times aren’t tough.

    Imagine going to the gym only when you want to lose weight. It isn’t going to last. It is too painful.

    Instead, be consistent to get consistent results. [17:09]

    Talk to your clients like you would talk to a friend. They don’t need somebody pushing a product down their throat. They want someone who is trying to meet their needs so ask how you can do that for them.

    • What is the best way to communicate with them?
    • How frequently do they want to hear from you?
    • When can you call or email them next?

    To have more influence from a personal standpoint, try seeing yourself as your audience does.

    Record yourself on your phone. The level of awareness that develops from observing your own verbal and non-verbal cues can be truly eye-opening.

    Everything about our behavior translates into the experience that people have with us. Influence doesn’t happen during the conversation. It happens after the fact. Focus on your thoughts. [20:26]

    NO EYES? NO TALK.

    Focus your eyes on a single point and practice as if you are speaking to individuals there.

    When you focus your eyes, you become focused in your thoughts.  When you lose focus on the point, you will find that you also lose your train of thought.

    Make every interaction purposeful.

    When you are trying to connect with someone, only speak to them when you can see their eyes. Make it a meaningful conversation.

    Anytime you need to look away, stop talking. It creates trust. Without trust, nothing else matters.

    You save time when you stay focused and speak less. [22:30]

    Many of us forget that the people we are trying to influence may not be as excited about our years of experience or about our product as we are. If you only have two or five minutes with a client, think about how to provide the greatest value in the shortest time.

    Make it memorable for them. They don’t have to say ‘yes’ today but you can increase their interest today. Let them know how to reach you tomorrow. [24:31]

    CONSISTENCY

    If you want to use social media to increase your influence, be sure to be consistent among the platforms.

    Stacey cites the common problem of using cellphones to send emails, namely, that disclaimer at the bottom to ‘please forgive any grammatical errors.’ Why would you ask a potential client to do that?

    Influence comes through with everything we do.

    Be sure your messages are consistent. Don’t bash other companies. Remember that your tone of voice does not convey to the written word. Avoid the risk of coming across as unprofessional.  

    Think before you post.

    Your reputation is on everything that you do. You choose the reputation that you want people to have of you. [25:28]

    “IMMEDIATE STEPS YOU CAN TAKE TO BEGIN GROWING YOUR INFLUENCE” EPISODE RESOURCES

    Connect with Stacey and check out her available resources at staceyhankeinc.com. 

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I believe in doing BIG THINGS! You should be earning 6 figures easily as a sales rep. But chances are you are not...yet! Sales is the most important department in every company but many sellers are never taught how to effectively sell, much less how to earn their way to high-income status. My own career limped along until a company I worked for invested in sales training to help me succeed. Immediately afterward, I closed a deal worth 4X what the company spent on me and saw hockey-stick improvement in my performance. So I started a podcast to “Evangelize” what was working.

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