The Better Leaders Better Schools Podcast with Daniel Bauer

The Secret to Turning Resistance into Support


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The Ruckus Report

Quick take: If you're facing pushback on your bold school vision, this episode is your playbook for flipping critics into raving fans. Learn how one principal shifted the narrative — and built massive community support in the process.

Meet Your Fellow Ruckus Maker

Dr. Christopher Jones is a high school principal, leadership author, and host of the Seeing to Lead podcast. He helps educators shift from surviving to thriving by encouraging reflection, connection, and vision — even in the most resistant environments.

Breaking Down the Old Rules 🔨 Key Insight #1
  • What’s broken: Too many leaders are paralyzed by fear of resistance — especially from staff or community stakeholders.
  • The shift: Chris started by listening deeply and showing people how they could lead without a title.
  • Impact: Staff ownership grew, and culture shifted — not because mandates were handed down, but because people bought in.
Key Insight #2
  • What’s broken: Traditional admin mindsets treat critics as threats rather than assets.
  • The shift: Chris chose curiosity over combat, asking questions like: “What do you want to see happen?”
  • Impact: Open conversations turned former critics into trusted allies who now champion his leadership publicly.
Key Insight #3
  • What’s broken: Schools often ignore how powerful public perception is in building momentum.
  • The shift: Chris proactively told positive stories and empowered his community to tell them too.
  • Impact: The narrative shifted from doubt to celebration — with the superintendent, school board, and staff all on board.
Quotable Ruckus

“Your loudest critics might just be your most loyal supporters — if you give them the chance to lead.”

– Dr. Christopher Jones

Your Do School Different Challenge
  • Tomorrow: Ask one critic what success would look like in their eyes. Listen without defense.
  • This Month: Invite that person into a decision-making process — not to agree with you, but to shape the future together.
  • This Semester: Create a system where feedback becomes fuel, not friction. Turn your toughest room into your greatest asset.
Connect & Continue

🎯 Get the full episode transcript here.

🔗 His Books:

  • 📘 SEEing to Lead
  • 📗 Isabella and the Storm
  • 📕 Isabella's Unexpected Gift
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