The Spouter-Inn

The Spouter-Inn

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  • 7. Inferno.

    I am the way into the doleful city,

    I am the way into eternal grief,
    I am the way to a forsaken race.

    Justice it was that moved my great creator;

    Divine omnipotence created me,
    And highest wisdom joined with primal love.

    Before me nothing but eternal things

    Were made, and I shall last eternally.
    Abandon every hope, all you who enter.

    I saw these words spelled out in somber colors

    Inscribed along the ledge above a gate;
    ‘Master,’ I said, ‘these words I see are cruel.’

    Dante’s Inferno, the first section of the Divine Comedy, is a medieval

    poem in which our author is given a guided tour of Hell. He encounters famous
    historical figures as well as people he knew personally, while his tour guide
    (the Roman poet Vergil) explains the logic of the Hell’s organization and the
    divine justice of its terrible punishments. Suzanne and Chris retrace these
    steps and talk about their favourite passages in all their upsetting cruelty
    and beauty.

    Show Notes.

    The Inferno as translated by Mark Musa

    [Bookshop], Charles
    Singleton, or Ciaran
    Carson. Also available free online in Allen
    Mandelbaum’s translation (with useful notes by Teodolinda
    Barolini) at Digital Dante.

    The Holkham

    manuscript, one of only four fully illustrated copies of
    Dante’s Divine Comedy from the fourteenth century, is available online through
    the Bodleian library. It’s worth exploring its
    illustrations.

    Gustave Doré’s famous nineteenth-century

    illustrations are also
    fabulous.

    Jean-Baptiste Carpeaux’s statue of Ugolino and His

    Sons.

    More artworks inspired by the

    Inferno.

    Caroline Bergvall reading

    “Via”, hosted at her
    PennSound page. The poem
    is in her collection Fig.

    Next time: John Milton’s Paradise Lost, also

    available at Project Gutenberg.

    1 hr
  • 6. The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas.

    I may say that only three times in my life have I met a genius and each time

    a bell within me rang and I was not mistaken, and I may say in each case it
    was before there was any general recognition of the quality of genius in them.
    The three geniuses of whom I wish to speak are Gertrude Stein, Pablo Picasso
    and Alfred Whitehead. I have met many important people, I have met several
    great people but I have only known three first class geniuses and in each case
    on sight within me something rang. In no one of the three cases have I been
    mistaken. In this way my new full life began.

    The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas (written

    by her partner, Gertrude Stein) recounts the couple’s lives in early
    twentieth-century Paris among painters, writers, and composers—and, during the
    First World War, soldiers. Chris and Suzanne explore what the book says about
    how painting is like writing, about wives, and about America—and they talk
    about other pieces by Stein that they love.

    Show Notes.

    The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas. [Project

    Gutenberg.
    Bookshop.]

    Other works by Stein: Three Lives. Tender

    Buttons. The Making of
    Americans. How to Write.

    Gertrude Stein reads If I Told Him: A Completed Portrait of

    Picasso.

    Alice B. Toklas in her own

    words.

    Picasso’s Trois

    femmes
    (1908), a portrait, “in a sort of red brown, of three women, square and
    posturing, all of it rather frightening”.

    Picasso’s Portrait of Gertrude

    Stein.

    Sonia Delaunay’s magnificent book collaboration with poet Blaise Cendrars, La

    prose du Transsibérien et de la Petite Jehanne de
    France.

    Seeing Gertrude Stein: Five

    Stories, an exhibit that was at
    the National Portrait Gallery several years ago with a webpage full of images
    of Stein.

    The Steins Collect: Matisse, Picasso, and the Parisian Avant-Garde, a series of lectures

    hosted by the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

    Next time: Dante’s Inferno (translated by Mark Musa

    or Charles Singleton or Ciaran
    Carson or whomever you’d like).

    59 min
  • 5. Little Women.

    ‘In spite of the curly crop, I don’t see the ‘son Jo’ whom I left a year

    ago,’ said Mr. March. ‘I see a young lady who pins her collar straight, laces
    her boots neatly, and neither talks slang, nor lies on the rug as she used to
    do. Her face is rather thin and pale just now, with watching and anxiety, but
    I like to look at it, for it has grown gentler, and her voice is lower; she
    doesn’t bounce, but moves quietly, and takes care of a certain little person
    in a motherly way which delights me. I rather miss my wild girl, but if I get
    a strong, helpful, tender-hearted woman in her place, I shall feel quite
    satisfied. I don’t know whether the shearing sobered our black sheep, but I do
    know that in all Washington I couldn’t find anything beautiful enough to be
    bought with the five-and-twenty dollars which my good girl sent me.’

    Little Women has Suzanne and Chris tackling

    new territory: a novel, a children’s book, and something written within the
    last two hundred years. They discuss this tale of four sisters (Meg, Jo, Beth,
    and Amy), the possibilities it offers young women (but eventually takes from
    them), its complex exploration of gender, and its fascination with death.

    Show Notes.

    Little Women by Louisa May Alcott. [Project

    Gutenberg.
    Bookshop.]

    Avidly, on the Los Angeles Review of Books, had a great cluster of

    articles about each
    of the sisters.

    “How Little Women Got Big” at the New Yorker, which draws upon a recent book about

    Little Women, Anne Boyd Rioux’s Meg, Jo, Beth, Amy: The Story of Little Women
    and Why It Still Matters.

    Next episode: The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas

    by Gertrude Stein.

    1 hr
  • 4b. Bonus: Timothy Perry on The Book of Peace.

    There’s the importance of the text and the writer, but also the importance of

    the physical object and all the things you can do with the physical object
    that you can’t do if you only have digital accuess or [no] access at all.

    We met up with Timothy Perry , medieval manuscript and early book

    librarian at the Thomas Fisher Rare Book
    Library at the University of Toronto.
    The Fisher is excited to announce the acquisition of a rare and lavish
    medieval manuscript of The Book of Peace, written by Christine de Pizan (whose
    classic The Book of the City of Ladies we
    discussed in our last episode). Tim was kind enough to show the newly acquired
    book to us and tell us about its many charms.

    Show Notes.

    A detailed description of the manuscript (with

    images!) from the Fisher Rare Book Library.

    An article about the acquisition in U of T News.

    The Book of Peace, translated by Karen Green,

    Constance Mews, and Janice Pinder. (Open access!)

    An article about Pierre

    Bergé, a previous owner of the
    manuscript.

    37 min
  • 4. The Book of the City of Ladies.

    When the evil Julian heard this voice, he reproached the torturers for not

    having removed enough of Christine’s tongue, telling them to cut it so close
    that she would be unable to converse with her lord Jesus. They cut off the
    whole of her tongue, right down to the root, but she spat out these remains in
    the tyrant’s face and blinded him in one eye. Speaking just as easily as ever,
    she exclaimed, ‘Tyrant, what was the point of your removing my tongue so that
    I couldn’t praise God when my spirit will praise Him for evermore whilst yours
    is damned for all eternity? It’s only fitting that my tongue should have
    blinded you, since you didn’t believe my words in the first place.’

    The Book of the City of Ladies begins with its

    author, Christine de Pizan, working in her study, and suddenly overwhelmed by
    the misogyny of so many of the great books surrounding her. She is visited by
    three women—personifications of Reason, Rectitude, and Justice—who instruct
    her to build a city, and offer her biographies of all the illustrious women
    who will live in (and therefore be ) the city. Suzanne and Chris explore
    this classic medieval anthology: the ways in which women have made themselves
    heard; the physical effort of creating both cities and manuscripts; and the
    echoes Christine’s book has both with other great books and with our own
    experiences today.

    Show Notes.

    The Book of the City of Ladies by Christine de

    Pizan, as translated by Rosalind Brown-Grant.
    [Bookshop.]

    More info (and images!) about the

    manuscript of The Book of the City of Ladies that
    Christine supervised herself.

    “In the fifteenth century, men read Christine de

    Pizan…”

    A

    banner,
    unfurled at Columbia University during a protest in
    1989,
    included Christine as one of seven great female authors that should be part of
    the canon.

    Next episode: Little Women by Louisa May Alcott.

    58 min
  • 3. The Metamorphoses.

    “O gods, if any there be who will listen to my prayer, I do not refuse the

    dire punishment I have deserved; but lest, surviving, I offend the living,
    and, dying, I offend the dead, drive me from both realms; change me and refuse
    me both life and death!” [...] Even as she spoke the earth closed over her
    legs; roots burst forth from her toes [...] her blood changed to sap, her arms
    to long branches, her fingers to twigs, her skin to hard bark. And now the
    growing tree had closely bound her heavy womb, had buried her breast and was
    just covering her neck; but she could not endure the delay and, meeting the
    rising wood, she sank down and plunged her face in the bark.

    Ovid’s Metamorphoses is a long and curious poem, telling stories of people

    getting transformed into animals, plants, or stones; stones turning into
    people, and language getting perverted every which way. Suzanne and Chris talk
    about the issues in translation, the way language can be lost, creation and
    the natural world, Ovid’s ideas of gender and sexuality, and medieval (and
    later) interpretations of these stories. They also wrap up this first
    cluster—on so-called “foundational” texts that turned out to have an
    unexpected common theme—and announce the next cluster.

    Show Notes.

    Ovid’s Metamorphoses in three translations: Frank Justus

    Miller, Brookes
    More,
    and Arthur
    Golding.

    The passages we discuss:

    • Narcissus and Echo,

      3.339–510

    • Myrrha,

      10.298–518

    • Io,

      1.567–649

    • Acteon,

      3.138–250

    • Philomela,

      6.424–674

    • Deucalion and Pyrrha,

      1.313–347

    • Niobe,

      6.146–312

    • Tiresias,

      3.314–336

    • Hermaphroditus,

      4.274–388

    • Orpheus,

      10.1–105
      and
      11.1–66

      Some later works inspired by the Metamorphoses:

      • Bernini, Apollo and

        Daphne

      • Caravaggio,

        Narcissus

      • Rubens, Deucalion and

        Pyrrha

      • Benjamin Britten, 6 Metamorphoses for solo oboe after

        Ovid

      • Ted Hughes, Tales from Ovid

        The Ovide moralisé is currently being translated into modern English.

        Meanwhile here’s a translation into Middle English done by William
        Caxton.

        [Correction: Ovid was exiled in modern-day

        Romania.]

        The next book we’ll discuss.

        56 min
      • 2. The Symposium.

        “Imagine that Hephaestus came with his tools and stood over them as they were

        lying together, and asked, ‘What is it you humans want from each other?’ And
        when they were unable to reply, suppose he asked them instead, ‘Do you want to
        be so thoroughly together that you’re never at any time apart? If that’s what
        you want, I’d be glad to weld you together, to fuse you into a single person,
        instead of being two separate people, so that during your lifetime as a single
        person the two of you share a single life; and then, when you die, you die as
        a single person, not as two separate people, and you share a single death
        there in Hades. Think about it: is this your heart’s desire?’”

        Plato’s Symposium is a curious text: a

        philosophical treatise on love, a play about a dinner party in classical
        Athens where the guests are all flirty and catty, and a story-within-a-story
        that goes at least five layers deep. Suzanne and Chris consider what it means
        to get intellectually pregnant, to philosophically crash a party, and to find
        your missing half.

        Show Notes.

        The Symposium by Plato, Robin Waterfield’s

        translation. [Bookshop.]

        Our friends at Dear Reader discussed some

        adaptations of ancient Greek material: Check it
        out!

        Aristophanes’ myth of the origin of love inspired a striking song in Hedwig

        and the Angry Inch.

        When Alcibiades stumbles into the party, drunk and beautiful with flowers in

        his hair, he probably looks a little like Dionysius, the god of
        wine.

        No Silenus states with effigies inside have survived, but Susan Woodford has

        argued that medieval “Vierges
        ouvrantes” statues were similar.

        We do have

        depictions
        of Silenus as the (significantly older) tutor of Dionysus, however.

        Next episode: The

        Metamorphoses
        by Ovid. (Use whatever translation you can find.)

        56 min
      • 1. The Iliad.

                    For a young man all is decorous

        when he is cut down in battle and torn with the sharp bronze, and lies there
        dead, and though dead still all that shows about him is beautiful;
        but when an old man is dead and down, and the dogs mutilate
        the grey head and the grey beard and the parts that are secret,
        this, for all sad mortality, is the sight most pitiful.

        Suzanne and Chris begin their conversations about great books with a very big and very old one: Homer’s Iliad. This Ancient Greek poem about the Trojan War is, of course, widely known, but if you haven’t

        read it (or if you haven’t read it in a while), you might not remember how
        complex (and downright strange) it gets with its reflections on war and the fallout
        of war. They also talk about the joys of dipping in and out of books, rather than
        reading them from cover to cover.

        Show Notes.

        The Iliad by Homer, in the Richmond Lattimore

        translation. [Bookshop.]

        A review

        of English translations of the Iliad.

        Another

        review of English translations.

        A

        quick taste of what Ancient Greek might have sounded like.

        “‘Homer

        can help you’: War veterans use ancient epics to cope.”

        “‘The

        Iliad’ as illustration of epic struggle with post-Vietnam stress.”

        “Here,

        Bullet”
        by Iraq war veteran Brian Turner, along with a short bio
        and two
        podcasts on war
        poetry.

        Teaching classics to convicts.

        A lecture on “The Disordered Soul: Thémis and PTSD”.

        Writers & Company interviews Pat Barker,

        author of a recent novel that retells the Iliad from Briseis’s perspective.

        Christopher Logue’s War Music is a classic recent radical translation/retelling of the Iliad.

        Next episode: The Symposium by Plato.

        1 hr

      About The Spouter-Inn

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      Chris (a poet) and Suzanne (a professor) spent six years talking about “great books” (whatever that means), and are now talking about reading (and all the things that means).

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