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Whether you are struggling with depression, addiction, or seeking motivation, Justin’s story is a roadmap for anyone feeling lost in the dark. "I was the youngest heavyweight in the country, and I was losing the only fight that mattered." In this powerful episode Kati speaks with Justin Wren for a raw conversation on mental health, resilience, and the recovery journey. Justin pulls back the curtain on a life of extreme highs and devastating lows, from the "merciless" bullying he faced as a child in Texas to the secret OxyContin addiction that haunted his professional MMA career. We dive deep into the "living nightmare" of substance abuse, where Justin managed a massive intake of pills while fighting on the world’s biggest stage. He shares the heartbreaking moment he hit rock bottom after missing his best friend's wedding and the moment in Tulum that gave him a second chance at life. Justin also discusses his work with Fight for the Forgotten, his nonprofit dedicated to providing clean water and land rights to the Mbuti Pygmy people in Uganda and Eastern Congo. He shares the beautiful, life-altering lessons he learned about community, grief, and Post-Traumatic Growth (PTG) that helped him find true healing.


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In this episode:

00:00 – Meet guest Justin Wren

01:41 – The "merciless" bullying Justin faced in grade school

08:34 – Moving schools and finding mentorship through Olympic wrestling coaches

13:54 – Discovering the UFC

18:18 – Learning to "swim in the deep end" by wrestling 200 matches a year

18:49 – Finding purpose by speaking in over 100 correctional facilities

26:54 – The freak injury that led to a massive opioid addiction

33:07 – Rock bottom: "I can't believe you missed my wedding."

34:10 – The attempt to end it all in Tulum and the miracle survival

44:48 – Understanding Post-Traumatic Growth (PTG) with Dr. Daniel Amen

49:32 – The cycle of "dry drunk" vs. real recovery

53:51 – Fight for the Forgotten: Deep work on land rights and sustainable water

01:04:13 – Explaining depression to a culture that has no word for "suicide."

01:17:08 – The Statue of Responsibility and giving a "hand up," not a "handout."


JUSTIN WREN

https://www.fightfortheforgotten.org/


Ask Kati Anything ep. 302 | Your mental health podcast, with Kati Morton, LMFT


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