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  • 323. Why you believe you're right, even when you're wrong, with Owen Fitzpatrick, social psychologist and author

    When you hear the word propaganda, you picture a dictator, a politician, or an ad executive. You never picture yourself. But turns out, you are running the exact same campaign on yourself every day.

    In this episode, charter occupational psychologist Leanne Elliott and entrepreneur Al Elliott are joined by psychologist, speaker, and author Owen Fitzpatrick. Owen has spent the last 25 years studying how beliefs form, why they change, and how they shape our leadership, choices, and success.

    From coaching billionaires and Olympic athletes to speaking across 100 countries, Owen breaks down his concept of Inner Propaganda—the story you sell to yourself—and why logic bullying never works when trying to change minds.


    🎙️ In This Episode:

    • What is "Inner Propaganda"? Why beliefs aren't based on objective evidence, but on what feels true and protects who you think you are.

    • The "It'll Be Grand" Effect: How your brain functions as a prediction machine designed for survival and stability, not necessarily your success.

    • Desired Truth vs. Objective Truth: How startup founders (like James Dyson and Melanie Perkins) rely on desired truth to push boundaries—and how to avoid letting it blind you.

    • Why "Logic Bullying" Fails: Why bombarding people with data rarely changes minds and why changing how someone feels is the real secret to influence.

    • Leading Through AI & Future Change: How to frame organizational shifts around your team’s identity and potential, rather than triggering fear.

    • Steve Jobs & Reality Distortion: How legendary leaders shift feelings to paint desired identities for executives and teams.


    • 💡 Top Takeaways

      1. Stop Leading with Logic: Evidence comes last, not first. Work out how you want someone to feel before you deliver the arguments.

      2. Catch Your Desired Truth: Ask yourself whether you believe an idea because the data supports it, or because you need it to be true.

      3. Believe in Potential First: The leaders people willingly follow are the ones who believe in who someone can become, long before the evidence proves it.

      4. 👤 About the Guest

        Owen Fitzpatrick is a psychologist, international speaker, author of 10 books, and host of the Inner Propaganda podcast. He helps global companies, leaders, and individuals master belief leadership to drive better decisions, influence teams, and reduce polarization.

        Website: owenfitzpatrick.com

        LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenfitzp/

        Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/owenf23/

        Listen to Owen's Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inner-propaganda-with-owen-fitzpatrick/id1441538919


        📬 Connect with Al & Leanne

        – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork
        – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
        – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
        – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat

        Mental health support

        UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org
        UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk
        US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org
        Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au
        Global helplines
        https://findahelpline.com


        🎧 Truth, Lies & Work is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals.


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      5. 322. The World’s Weirdest Jobs: Penguinologists, Snake Milkers, Ice Cowboys and more! Summer Sessions #1, with Georgia Hodkinson

        Welcome to Episode 1 of our Summer Sessions on Truth, Lies & Work! For the next few weeks, Al and Leanne are taking a short break from the workplace news and heavy management analysis to bring you something a bit lighter, funnier, and completely fascinating.

        Joined by special guest host Georgia Hodkinson (Associate Producer and Organisational Psychologist), the team goes head-to-head in a battle of bizarre careers. Each host brings genuinely real, highly specialised, and wildly strange jobs to the table—guessing what they involve, breaking down how you actually get into them, revealing what they pay, and scoring them on a leaderboard for sheer weirdness.

        Whether you're lounging by the pool, commuting to work, or hiding from your inbox on holiday, hit play to discover the most unbelievable ways people make a living around the globe!

        • Unbelievable Careers Revealed: Deep dives into penguinologists, snake milkers, ice cowboys, professional apologists, and golf ball divers.

        • Day-in-the-Life Breakdown: What these jobs actually involve, how rare they are, and how much they pay.

        • How to Land One: Do you need a PhD, niche training, or do you just fall into it by accident?

        • The Weirdest Job Leaderboard: Scores for pure weirdness, "Would you actually do it?", and the ultimate dinner party conversation-starter!


        • 🎙️ Special Guest Host

          • Georgia Hodkinson (GMBPsS) – Associate Producer & Organisational Psychologist

          • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-hodkinson-gmbpss/

          • Company: Georgia's Psy Work

          • 📬 Connect with Al & Leanne

            – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork
            – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
            – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
            – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat


            Mental health support

            UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org
            UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk
            US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org
            Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au
            Global helplines
            https://findahelpline.com


            🎧 Truth, Lies & Work is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals.

            52 min
          • 321. Is HR the Loneliest Job in the Building? With Tom Emery

            HR leaders spend all day surrounded by people. So why does it often feel like the loneliest job in the building?

            In this episode, Tom Emery, former Chief People Officer at a top City of London wealth manager, 20-year corporate HR veteran (ex-HSBC), and founder of HEX Talent & Development, joins Al and Leanne to pull back the curtain on the reality of HR leadership.

            Tom shares his powerful "Vet Analogy" for HR: just like veterinarians enter the profession out of love for animals only to see them at their illest, weakest, or most aggressive, HR leaders enter the role because they love people, only to be brought in when people are backed into a corner.

            Together, they dive deep into how HR leaders can step out of the isolated "police officer" role and step into the room as true strategic drivers, how senior leaders can build psychological safety by simply asking for help, and why learning to disagree well is the missing ingredient in high-performing C-suites.


            🎧 What We Cover in This Episode

            • The Vet Analogy: Why HR professionals frequently meet employees at their lowest points—and how to handle the emotional toll.

            • Breaking Out of the "Outside Looking In" Trap: How HR leaders can build true credibility with the board, C-suite, and CFOs by becoming commercial explorers.

            • The Art of Disagreeing Well: Why storming and surfacing productive conflict is essential for high-performing, psychologically safe teams.

            • Modelling Psychological Safety: Why asking for help as a senior leader increases trust rather than weakening authority.

            • Humanising Workplace Change in the Age of AI: Navigating digital transformation, layoffs, and organisational shifts without losing the human touch.

            • Setting Boundaries & Sitting in the Discomfort: Learning to accept that you can't fix every outcome or make everyone happy.


            • ⚡ Top 3 Takeaways

              1. Get curious about the business, not just the people: The HR leaders who get taken seriously understand how the company actually makes money and manages cost levers as deeply as the CFO does.

              2. Build safety by asking for help yourself: Admitting you don't have all the answers isn't a sign of weakness—it's the fastest way for senior leaders to model and build trust.

              3. You can't fix every outcome: Chasing 100% approval or trying to solve every hard moment will lead straight to burnout. Sometimes the job is just sitting with someone in a difficult moment, not solving it for them.

              4. More from Tom:

                • Website: https://www.hex-development.com/

                • Book (People, People): Claim a free UK copy at https://www.hex-development.com/ (or available globally on Amazon)

                • Podcast (Beyond Potential): https://beyondpotential.podbean.com/

                • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomemery-b8809818/

                • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tomemeryhex/

                • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tomemeryhex

                • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HEX-development


                • 📬 Connect with Al & Leanne

                  – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork
                  – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
                  – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
                  – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat


                  Mental health support

                  UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org
                  UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk
                  US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org
                  Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au
                  Global helplines
                  https://findahelpline.com


                  🎧 Truth, Lies & Work is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals.


                  53 min
                • 320. Can you bulls*it a bullsh*tter? PLUS! The European hiring crisis, Gen-Z perfectionism and Tik Tok training

                  The Hiring Crisis, TikTok Training and Gen Z Perfectionism. PLUS How to Keep Quiet Teams Motivated

                  Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning workplace podcast where behavioural science meets workplace culture, brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network.


                  In this episode of This Week in Work, business owner Al Elliott and Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott break down why fewer than half of recruitment processes actually succeed, why TikTok-style L&D might be sabotaging employee memory, and how economic pressure is driving an epidemic of Gen-Z perfectionism. Plus, in Truth or Lie, we test the psychological myth: Can you bullshit a bullshitter?


                  🔥 Stories covered

                  1. Are we actually in a European hiring crisis?

                  While corporate layoff headlines dominate the news, data from McKinsey’s HR Monitor survey reveals European hiring success sits at just 46% when accounting for offer acceptance and probation survival. With an aging workforce retiring and AI changing entry-level work, skilled talent is scarcer than ever. We discuss why smart companies like Spotify are shifting focus from external recruitment to internal mobility and growing talent from within.

                  • Source: https://apple.news/ATgORe8gTRY2tHZs98wLVag

                  • 2. Why short-form videos are terrible for L&D

                    Thinking of using 60-second TikTok-style reels for workplace training? Think again. A new study demonstrates that chopping learning content into micro-clips tanks test scores and dramatically speeds up overnight forgetting. Brain scans revealed that continuous video syncs brain regions responsible for attention and memory formation, whereas micro-clips over-stimulate change-detection reflexes without actual absorption.

                    • Source: https://www.psypost.org/the-illusion-of-learning-from-short-videos/

                    • 3. Is work making young people hyper-perfectionist?

                      Analysing 35 years of data across 82,000 students, a major study in Psychological Bulletin shows a sharp rise in socially prescribed perfectionism—the belief that others demand perfection and will judge mistakes harshly. Rather than being "fragile" or "entitled," Gen-Z employees are operating under intense economic pressure and fear of failure. We cover how leaders can foster true psychological safety to overcome paralysis and indecision.

                      • Source: https://www.bps.org.uk/research-digest/perfectionism-young-adults-higher-ever-says-new-study

                      • 🧠 Truth or Lie: "You Can’t Bullshit a Bullshitter"

                        It’s an age-old saying: frequent liars and exaggerators have a built-in radar for deception. But does the psychological research back it up?


                        Leanne examines studies by Christian Blötner & Sebastian Bergold (2023) and Dr. Shane Littrell et al. (2021). We break down the crucial difference between persuasive bullshitters (who talk a big game with buzzwords) and evasive bullshitters (who dodge questions defensively).

                        • Want to dive deeper? Check out cognitive psychologist Dr. Shane Littrell’s research on Substack: https://bullshitology.substack.com/

                        • Workplace Surgery

                          In this week's Workplace Surgery, we tackle three real questions submitted by listeners:


                          1. On Employee Perks: "Am I being naive putting in a free gym?"


                          2. On Downtime Motivation: "How do you keep people motivated when work goes quiet?"


                          3. On Inclusive Hiring: "I want to give someone a chance, but am I doing more harm than good?"

                          4. 📬 Connect with Al & Leanne

                            – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork

                            – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott

                            – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne

                            – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat


                            Mental health support

                            UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org

                            UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk

                            US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org

                            Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au

                            Global helplines

                            https://findahelpline.com


                            🎧 Truth, Lies & Work is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals.


                            57 min
                          5. 319. Why Nobody is Listening to You at Work, with Strategic PR Director, Ellie Glason

                            Have you ever put together a perfectly logical, data-backed presentation or sent a highly detailed company-wide email, only to be met with complete silence? Meanwhile, a seemingly trivial update or a random piece of news gets everyone talking.

                            In this episode of Truth, Lies & Work, we unlock the secret to getting people to actually listen to you. It isn’t about louder voices, longer emails, or bigger slide decks. It is entirely about storytelling.

                            Our guest is Ellie Glason, a leading PR consultant for founders and former publishing specialist. Ellie explains why our brains are hardwired to ignore dry information dumps and how you can use the classic "Seven Basic Plots" of human storytelling to get instant buy-in from your team, your board, or the media.


                            🎧 In This Episode, We Discuss:

                            • The "Baby with Tall Hair" Phenomenon: Why Al's data-heavy, perfectly logical press release from 20 years ago was completely ignored in favor of a silly human-interest story—and what it teaches us about workplace communication.

                            • The Inverted Triangle of Communication: How to hook your audience in the first few seconds instead of burying the lead under a mountain of context.

                            • The Seven Basic Plots of Business: How legendary stories like The Quest, Overcoming the Monster, and Rebirth can be used to handle tough internal corporate messages—like return-to-office mandates, budget cuts, and major digital transformations.

                            • The Pub Test: The quick, foolproof metric to test if your business update or pitch is actually interesting to another human being.

                            • The Credibility Ladder for Introverts: How leaders who hate the spotlight can still build powerful thought leadership and authority without having to yell on social media.

                            • The Future of PR in the Age of AI: How AI search is changing the game, making niche trade publications and trusted third-party sites more valuable than ever.


                            • 📖 Resources Mentioned in This Episode

                              • Why Nobody is Listening to You at Work: https://ellieglasonpr.com/

                              • The Seven Basic Plots: Why We Tell Stories by Christopher Booker: https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Basic-Plots-Tell-Stories/dp/0826452094

                              • Connect with Ellie Glason on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellie-glason/


                              • 📬 Connect with Al & Leanne

                                • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork

                                • Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott

                                • Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne

                                • Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat


                                • 🧠 Mental Health Support

                                  If you or someone you work with is struggling, please reach out to one of the trusted support services below:

                                  • UK & ROI: Samaritans — Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org

                                  • UK: Mind — Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk

                                  • US: Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org

                                  • Australia: Lifeline — Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au

                                  • Global Helplines: https://findahelpline.com


                                  • 48 min
                                  • 318. Toxic Founders, HR Rebels and Stalling Women’s Progress. PLUS! Is it good to have fun at work? With Rebecca Taylor

                                    Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning workplace podcast where behavioural science meets workplace culture. Brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, the ultimate audio destination for business professionals.

                                    In this episode of This Week in Work, hosts Al and Leanne Elliott are joined by a very special guest: Rebecca Taylor, host of the HR Voices podcast! Together, they unpack the hilarious reality of unhinged leadership conversations, dive deep into the newly stalling progress of women at work, put "forced fun" to the test under the psychological microscope, and answer some incredibly sticky workplace relationship questions.


                                    🔥 Stories Covered

                                    1. The HR Rebel Calling Out Unhinged Leaders

                                    You might not be surprised to hear that some of the conversations HR professionals have to have with leaders are… somewhat unhinged. But what happens when an HR professional calls them out on LinkedIn in the best, most direct way ever? We dive into the viral waves being made by the brilliant Emma Djemil (Founder of Be Unstoppable and The HR Club).

                                    • Follow Emma on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/be-unstoppable/

                                    • Check out the post: https://lnkd.in/p/dHKzfSRe


                                    • 2. Is the "Lean In" Generation Now Leaning Out?

                                      Women have made extraordinary gains in the past few decades across the world of work, but are things stalling? Sheryl Sandberg’s infamous 2013 book advised women to "lean in," but new data suggests women's progress at work appears to be stalling. Leanne and Rebecca dissect the learned behaviours—from over-apologising and avoiding conflict to taking on invisible "empathy tax" work—that are holding talented people back, and ask: Have workplaces actually changed enough?

                                      • Read the original article in The Economist: https://archive.is/20260706073156/https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2026/07/05/womens-progress-at-work-appears-to-be-stalling


                                      • 🧠 Truth or Lie: Does Fun at Work Undermine Performance?

                                        For generations, work has been treated as the serious part of life, while fun is something you earn once the job is done. If people are laughing or messing around, it must mean less work is getting done… right? Leanne dives deep into decades of organizational psychology to give you the ultimate verdict.

                                        • The "For" Case: Research shows that forced, "managed fun"—like mandatory pajama days or awkward icebreakers—can cause employee cynicism, frustration, and emotional exhaustion. Additionally, blurring work and play too closely can encourage workaholism and make it harder for people to switch off.

                                        • The "Against" Case: On the flip side, spontaneous humour and micro-breaks (even short personal internet breaks!) actually restore attention, boost mental energy, and increase productivity by up to 9% when done in moderation.

                                        • The Verdict: Forced fun rarely works. True workplace fun isn't something managers can force; it’s a natural byproduct that emerges when organizations get the psychological safety, autonomy, and human elements right.

                                        • 💬 Workplace Surgery❓

                                          In this week's workplace surgery, we take on your real-life culture and management dilemmas:

                                          "I’ve been casually seeing someone at work for about a year. Until now we’ve worked in different departments, but I’ve just been promoted and will be managing their department. Should I tell my employer about the relationship, or keep it private unless it becomes an issue?"

                                          Plus we answer:

                                          • Should a manager judge an employee’s private social media? What to do when a team member runs a public account following adult content but is otherwise an excellent employee.

                                          • What do you do when the toxic person is the founder? How to handle senior leadership when the person destroying the culture owns the entire business and there is no board.


                                          • 🎙️ Connect with Our Guest: Rebecca Taylor

                                            We are thrilled to be joined this week by Rebecca Taylor, host of HR Voices—the incredible scenario-based podcast for People Leaders who have to make the tough calls in real-time employee relations.

                                            • Listen to the HR Voices podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hr-voices/id1833927442

                                            • Connect with Rebecca Taylor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebebeccataylor2/

                                            • Support for HR Professionals: Check out AllVoices, the ultimate platform to manage employee relations, documentation, and investigations in one secure place: https://www.allvoices.co


                                            • 📬 Connect with Al & Leanne

                                              – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork

                                              – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
                                              – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
                                              – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat


                                              Mental health support

                                              UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org

                                              UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk
                                              US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org
                                              Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au
                                              Global helplines
                                              https://findahelpline.com


                                              1 hr 10 min
                                            • 317. He built his company around happiness, but was he happy? With Richard Clarke

                                              Have you ever hit a massive milestone—like selling the business you spent a decade building—only to feel an unexpected wave of grief instead of pure joy?


                                              In this episode of Truth, Lies and Work, we sit down with Richard Clarke, founder of software company Secret Source. He did what every entrepreneur dreams of: he grew his business, put team happiness at the absolute center of his culture, and successfully exited. But instead of finding ultimate contentment, Richard fell face-first into the ultimate happiness trap: "I’ll be happy when..."


                                              Richard opens up about the bittersweet reality of exiting a business, the sudden loss of community, and how he had to use his own behavioral science background to climb out of the post-exit slump. Plus, he breaks down the 5 essential needs every human requires to be truly happy at work and thoroughly busts the famous myth surrounding Google's "20% time."


                                              Key Takeaways from This Episode

                                              • The 5 Workplace Needs: Based on the US Surgeon General’s framework, everyone requires five core elements to thrive: Safety, Community, Autonomy, Growth, and Purpose.

                                              • The Post-Exit Slump: Founders often find that while an exit checks off the "safety" and "autonomy" boxes, it completely strips away their daily sense of "community" and "belonging."

                                              • Ask, Don't Guess: Richard shares a brilliant case study where simply mapping out his team's anonymous scores on these five needs revealed a massive, easily fixable issue with scheduling meetings.

                                              • The Google 20% Myth: Think Google employees spend a fifth of their week working on passion projects? Richard talks to ex-Googlers who have a very different story to tell.



                                              • Connect with Richard Clarke

                                                📬 Grab Richard's short ebook outlining the fundamental science of workplace happiness, or reach out to him directly on social media:

                                                – Free Ebook: https://www.richardclarke.eu/ebook

                                                – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardmclarke/
                                                – Website: https://www.richardclarke.eu/


                                                📬 Connect with Al & Leanne

                                                – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork
                                                – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
                                                – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
                                                – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat


                                                Mental health support

                                                UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org
                                                UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk
                                                US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org
                                                Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au
                                                Global helplines
                                                https://findahelpline.com


                                                Truth, Lies & Work is proud to be part of the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals.


                                                43 min
                                              • 316. Botsitting, Microsoft's Xbox Layoffs and Finance Burnout. PLUS! Does Growth Mindset Really Work? With Rob Briner

                                                Is AI really making us more productive, or are we spending more time managing it than benefiting from it?

                                                Should employees pay the price when leadership gets strategy wrong?

                                                And is Growth Mindset really the performance booster it's often claimed to be?


                                                This week on Truth, Lies & Work, Leanne introduces a brand new Word of the Week: Botsitting – the hidden work of feeding AI context, checking its answers and correcting its mistakes. Drawing on new research from Glean's Work AI Index, we explore why AI may be creating a new form of invisible labour that's leaving employees exhausted rather than empowered.


                                                We also unpack Microsoft's decision to cut around 3,200 Xbox jobs after CEO Asha Sharma admitted the business had "lost focus", asking where accountability should lie when strategy fails. Plus, new UK research suggests many senior finance professionals are choosing better leadership, career opportunities and work-life balance over higher salaries, challenging long-held assumptions about what motivates top talent.


                                                In Truth or Lie, Leanne is joined by Professor Rob Briner, one of the UK's leading experts in evidence-based management, to separate the science from the hype around Growth Mindset. Together they explore what the research actually says, why fashionable workplace ideas often outpace the evidence, and why organisations should focus less on finding the next big trend and more on understanding the problems they're trying to solve.


                                                Finally, in Workplace Surgery, we answer your questions about rebuilding team energy, supporting employees who don't want promotion, and whether exit interviews really reveal why people leave.


                                                Resources & Links

                                                Lincolnshire's unusual place names:
                                                https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/strange-place-names-lincolnshire-list-438323

                                                Rebecca Hinds' LinkedIn post:
                                                https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rebecca-hinds_we-recently-published-our-first-work-ai-index-share-7478531898693066752-jv9u/

                                                Glean Work AI Index:
                                                https://www.glean.com/work-ai-institute/reports/work-ai-index

                                                HR Director:
                                                https://www.thehrdirector.com/business-news/remuneration/finance-candidates-no-longer-choosing-roles-salary-alone-report-finds/

                                                Full Croft&Co Finance Professionals Report:

                                                www.croftandco.com/report

                                                Fortune:
                                                https://fortune.com/2026/07/06/exclusive-xbox-ceo-asha-sharma-job-cuts-studios-axed-layoffs/


                                                More from Rob Briner

                                                Rob Briner on LinkedIn:

                                                https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-briner/

                                                Rob Briner’s Is That Really a Thing LinkedIn posts (including one on Growth Mindset):

                                                https://tinyurl.com/2rzzzus3

                                                Corporate Research Forum’s Work Psychology Network:

                                                https://tinyurl.com/4s4pmz9e

                                                Work Psychology Network report on behaviour change in organizations:

                                                https://tinyurl.com/3p3rwerb


                                                Connect with Truth, Lies & Work

                                                – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork 

                                                – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott 

                                                – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne 

                                                – Email: [email protected] 

                                                – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat


                                                🧠 Mental Health Support

                                                UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org 

                                                UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk 

                                                US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org 

                                                Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au 

                                                Global helplines https://findahelpline.com


                                                Truth, Lies & Work is proud to be part of the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals.


                                                56 min
                                              • 315. How to Handle Crisis in the Workplace, with Andrew Blotky, Facebook's first Director of Global Internal Communications

                                                Welcome to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning workplace podcast where behavioural science meets workplace culture.

                                                How do you steady your team and maintain trust when everything around you is chaotic?

                                                This week, we are joined by Andrew Blotky, an executive coach, author, and the founder of Azure Leadership Group. Andrew has managed internal communications at global scales, building Facebook’s first global employee communications function during a period of intense growth and scrutiny, and leading HR communications at Johnson & Johnson.

                                                In this episode, Andrew shares practical wisdom on leading with integrity through periods of change, crisis, and uncertainty. Moving past standard PR templates, he dives deep into the human side of leadership, discussing how authenticity, self-reflection, and mindfulness can help you stay grounded when you are under fire.


                                                💡 Key Takeaways From This Episode

                                                • The First 24 Hours: Why speaking early—even without all the answers—is critical to preventing people from creating their own negative narratives.

                                                • Honesty vs. Oversharing: Navigating the boundaries of what you can say, what you can't, and how to admit uncertainty without losing your credibility.

                                                • The Power of Pre-Work: Why the best crisis management happens long before the crisis hits by grounding your organisation in true core values.

                                                • Compassion in Commercial Decisions: Dealing with the fallout of modern workplace challenges, like mass layoffs and the anxiety surrounding generative AI.

                                                • Level 2 Listening: How to move out of a reactive "fight-or-flight" state and practice deep, curious listening to understand what your team truly needs.


                                                  👤 About the Guest

                                                  • Guest Name: Andrew Blotky

                                                  • Job Title: Executive Coach, Founder/CEO

                                                  • Organisation: Azure Leadership Group

                                                  • Website: https://www.azureleadership.com

                                                  • LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewblotky/

                                                  • Instagram: @blotblot

                                                  • Andrew’s Book: Honestly Speaking: How the Way We Communicate Transforms Leadership, Love, and Life

                                                    • Get the book here: https://www.azureleadership.com/honestlyspeaking

                                                      📬 Connect with Al & Leanne

                                                      – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork
                                                      – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
                                                      – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
                                                      – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat

                                                      Mental health support

                                                      UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org
                                                      UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk
                                                      US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org
                                                      Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au
                                                      Global helplines
                                                      https://findahelpline.com

                                                      🎧 Truth, Lies & Work is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals.

                                                      51 min
                                                    • 314. Why do we all love an underdog? PLUS! Responsible A.I., Ford's human rehiring spree AND the psychology of disagreements.

                                                      Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning workplace podcast where behavioural science meets workplace culture. This week, we are breaking down major shifts in the AI landscape, the science behind how we handle workplace friction, and a deep dive into why we naturally root for the underdog.


                                                      🔥 Stories Covered

                                                      NatWest Group Commits to Responsible AI Training for All 60,000 Staff

                                                      While many companies are rushing into AI deployment, NatWest is taking a human-centric approach by prioritizing data ethics. They have announced mandatory AI and data ethics training for all 60,000 employees, rolling out principles previously built in partnership with the University of Edinburgh's Edinburgh Futures Institute. The most fascinating takeaway? Over 50% of staff actively opted into extra training completely off their own back. With formal regulation still lagging behind, the bank is actively setting its own standard for corporate judgment and digital responsibility.

                                                      • NatWest Case Study: https://www.business-school.ed.ac.uk/executive-education/case-studies/ai-data-ethics-programme-natwest-group-leaders-colleagues

                                                      • NatWest Insights Article: https://www.natwestgroup.com/news-and-insights/latest-stories/ai-and-data/2025/may/upholding-ethical-use-of-ai-and-data-management.html


                                                        2. Ford’s AI Rollback: Rehiring 300 Human Engineers

                                                        In a major corporate pivot, Ford has confirmed it is rehiring more than 300 veteran quality inspectors after its automated, AI-driven quality checks failed to match human engineering expertise. Ford learned the hard way that automation cannot replicate decades of tacit institutional knowledge. These veteran engineers are returning to factory floors not just to inspect vehicles, but to mentor the next generation and properly train the AI systems moving forward.

                                                        • BBC News Coverage: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgrkd41n2v9o


                                                          3. Talk or Type? The Psychological Reality of Disagreements

                                                          When friction arises at work, our immediate instinct is often to hide behind a carefully drafted email or Slack message. However, new research featured by the British Psychological Society highlights that talking it out outperforms typing every single time. Spoken conversations naturally foster more active listening language, lower conflict, and build better mutual understanding. Despite this, 84% of people still choose text over talk. Al and Leanne discuss why it's time to pick up the phone.

                                                          • BPS Research Digest: https://www.bps.org.uk/research-digest/better-disagreement-use-your-voice


                                                            🧠 Truth or Lie: Do We All Love an Underdog?

                                                            From global sports tournaments to workplace dynamics, there is an assumption that humans are universally wired to root for the underdog. Leanne dives into the behavioural science behind this phenomenon, looking at the "effort heuristic" and why we value struggle over raw talent. However, this preference comes with a massive catch: the moment the stakes get high or personal risk is involved, our support for the underdog evaporates.


                                                            💬 Workplace Surgery

                                                            This week, Al and Leanne tackle three real-world questions from the listener mailbag:

                                                            • The Accidental Manager: "Nobody prepared me for management. I got promoted because I was good at my job, but managing people is a completely different skill. What is the one thing you wish someone had taught you before you took the role?"

                                                            • The Workplace Drain: How do you handle watching a line manager slowly drain the happiness out of a stellar colleague when it's happening outside your department?

                                                            • Pre-Meeting Chit Chat: Is a leader being a misery for wanting to skip the weekend catch-up and get straight to business, or is casual social time a vital team-building tool?


                                                              📬 Connect with Al & Leanne

                                                              – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork

                                                              – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
                                                              – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
                                                              – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat


                                                              🧠 Mental Health Support

                                                              UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org

                                                              UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk
                                                              US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org
                                                              Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au
                                                              Global helplines
                                                              https://findahelpline.com


                                                              Truth, Lies & Work is proud to be part of the HubSpot Podcast Network, the ultimate audio destination for business professionals


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