Claire is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of Quillette, the magazine for dangerous ideas.

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Would we all be better off if we knew less about the world? If we took less, not more, responsibility for fixing distant problems? If we focused a bit more on our own practical concerns? It's an uncomfortable idea, but one that the Guardian columnist Oliver Burkeman called for in his seminal article "How the news took over reality". Oliver's book is "The Antidote: Happiness for People Who Can't Stand Positive Thinking". He joins Josh, mid-pandemic, from New York.

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Josh doesn't think he's racist. But maybe that's the surest proof that he is. Should he be cancelled? Should statues be torn down? Are race protests a victory for anti-racism, or a descent into mob rule? Stan Grant is arguably the world's most influential Indigenous Australian. The son of a Wiradjuri elder, he's an insightful analyst and intrepid former CNN reporter.

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