Professor Jules Pretty joins me to discuss the inseparable link between our health and the health of our environment. He shares what sustainability is to him, how we can implicate it in our societies and the potential impact that can have on us as individuals. We discuss GDP and whether it is truly a good measurement of success, we also discuss the true cost of food, sustainable agriculture and the benefits that natural spaces have on our lives.
Selected Links from the Episode
Professor Jules Pretty website
Professor Jules Pretty books
Professor Jules Pretty 2010 paper - What is the best dose of nature and green exercise for improving mental health? A multi-study analysis
Professor Jules Pretty 2010 paper - The top 100 questions of importance to the future of global agriculture
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Unstress episode with Joel Salatin on farming
Unstress episode with Dr. Charles Massey on regenerative agriculture
Unstress episode with Allan Savory
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Dr. Ron Ehrlich: Hello and welcome to “Unstress” where each week we explore what it means to think holistically. Not a New Age philosophy just happens to be the way our bodies and the planet work and also what stresses us as individuals and the planet. The tools you already know are inseparable and also where we explore another piece of the puzzle, our modern world. I'm Dr. Ron Ehrlich.
Now the words “sustainability” and “diversity” keep cropping up. A few weeks ago, we explored the Green Revolution and what a GDP (gross domestic product) actually says about the health of the country and more importantly about how happy and healthy its inhabitants are.
My guest today is Professor Jules Pretty – OBE. He's an author and academic whose work focuses on sustainable agriculture and the relationship between people, nature and the land. He is a professor of environment and society as well as deputy vice-chancellor of the University of Essex in the UK.
Jules writes on the importance and relevance of nature for people. His research focuses on green exercise, nature and health. His 2010 papers ‘dose of nature’ and ‘hundred top questions for agriculture and food’ received considerable coverage in a claim worldwide. Now we won't get a chance to go through all hundred questions today, but we do cover a few and then some other issues. I hope you enjoy this conversation I had with Professor Jules Pretty.
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Welcome to the show Jules.
Professor Jules Pretty: Very nice to be on Ron.
Dr. Ron Ehrlich: Jules, you are a professor of Environment and Science and you've written books and done a great deal of research over the years. I wonder if you could give our listeners a sort of a brief of your own journey, a story of your own journey.
Professor Jules Pretty: It is about the kind of relationship between us and nature, between people in the planet, the individual things that we can do as well as the sort of larger policy things that can afford to happen. The concern is kind of obvious really. Our consumption patterns across the world are using up resources more rapidly than the world can supply them and unless we make some changes it's going to put us in a pretty difficult pickle if we aren't already there already.
Over many years I've worked on kind of food systems, on sustainable agriculture, as one part of the picture of trying to produce the things we need, the food we need whilst not harming or damaging the planet.
On the other side, there's a range of work and writing that I've done around the importance of nature in our lives. Both the kind of fundamental concept of that but also the kind of more direct benefits on the health of us being in natural places and looking after them and having some effective benefits from that on each of us.
There's a range of things that tie together but it's really about our relationships wit...