Unpacking Jesus's radical call to reject "power over" in favor of "power with," Mike Erre and Tim Stafford continue the Rule Series by exploring how this paradigm shift can transform our understanding of leadership, authority, and the church's role in the world. Dive into a thought-provoking discussion on how embracing Jesus's model challenges modern Christian nationalism and the temptation to use worldly power to achieve spiritual goals.

Key Takeaways:

• Distinguishing Between Power Over and Power With – Understanding how coercive power contrasts with relational, cooperative power in the teachings of Jesus.

• "Not So With You": Jesus's Command to Reject Worldly Power – Exploring Mark 10:42-45 and how Jesus instructs his disciples to lead through service and humility.

• The Temptation of Power and Authority – Analyzing biblical examples such as the temptation of Jesus, Peter's use of the sword, and the disciples' desire for greatness.

• Implications for Modern Church Leadership and Christian Nationalism – Discussing how embracing "power with" can address issues of hierarchy, abuse of authority, and the church's engagement with politics.

• Practical Applications for Embracing the Way of Jesus – Offering insights on how individuals and communities can embody servant leadership and resist the allure of power over.

Resources Mentioned:

• Reckoning with Power by David Fitch – Link

• Playing God: Redeeming the Gift of Power by Andy Crouch – Link

Biblical Passages Discussed:

• Mark 10:42-45 – Link

• Luke 22:24-27 – Link

• John 18:36 – Link

• Luke 4:1-13 (Temptation of Jesus) – Link

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Explore how moving beyond gatekeeping and adopting a 'power with' approach can transform your understanding of authority, community, and what it means to be human in God's image. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford dive deep into the concepts of power over versus power with, drawing from Genesis and the nature of God's power, and discuss how rethinking power dynamics can lead to more authentic and inclusive Christian communities.

Key Takeaways:

• Understanding 'Power Over' vs. 'Power With' – How shifting from coercive power to invitational and empowering relationships can reshape church and community life.
• Reflecting God's Image Through Stewardship – Insights on how the Genesis account informs our role in environmental stewardship as a way of bearing God's image.
• Overcoming Gatekeeping in the Church – Strategies to hold convictions with humility and avoid building new barriers that exclude others from the community.

Resources Mentioned:

• "Reckoning with Power" by David Fitch
• Concepts of 'Power Under' by Greg Boyd
• Genesis 1 – Exploration of the creation account and God's use of power

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Discover how to navigate the complexities of modern politics without compromising your loyalty to Jesus. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford are joined by Pauline scholar Dr. Timothy Gombis to delve into Paul's vision of the church as a political entity embodying the politics of the cross. Together, they unpack the dangers of partisanship, the allure of political idolatry, and the call for Christians to engage in a different kind of politics rooted in the kingdom of God.

Key Takeaways:

• The Church as a Distinct Political Community – Understanding that the church's politics are shaped by the cross, emphasizing service, love, and justice over power and control.
• Identifying and Resisting Political Idolatry – Recognizing how allegiance to political parties can become idolatrous and detract from our primary loyalty to Jesus.
• Fostering Unity Amidst Political Diversity – Exploring practical ways to maintain unity within the church community when members hold diverse political views.
• Emphasizing Local Engagement – Encouraging believers to focus on local action and community involvement as tangible expressions of the church's mission.
• Protecting Our Imaginations – Discussing how to guard against media-driven anxiety and distraction, allowing us to remain centered on Christ and the needs around us.

Guest Highlights: Dr. Timothy Gombis – A renowned New Testament scholar and host of the "Faith Improvised" podcast, Dr. Gombis offers deep insights into how Paul's teachings can guide the church's political engagement today, urging Christians to embody the politics of Jesus rather than conforming to worldly patterns.

Resources Mentioned:

• "Faith Improvised" Podcast – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/faith-improvised/id1525125614
• Books by Timothy Gombis:
  • Power and Weakness – Link
  • The Drama of Ephesians – Link
  • Paul: A Guide for the Perplexed – Link
• "The Righteous Mind" by Jonathan Haidt – Link

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Discover how understanding the true meaning of 'rule' in Genesis can transform our perspective on humanity's role in God's good creation. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the distinction between 'good' and 'perfect' in the creation narrative, revealing how embracing God's intent unlocks our creative purpose and joy. They explore how recognizing creation as loaded with potential invites us to actively participate in cultivating and enjoying the world around us, mirroring God's own delight in His creation.

Key Takeaways:

• Creation as 'Good', Not 'Perfect' – Understanding why God's creation is described as good and the significance of its potential and unfinished nature.

• Rethinking 'Rule' – Exploring the true meaning of humanity's call to rule and subdue creation as caretakers and co-creators with God.

• Enjoyment as a Sacred Vocation – Recognizing enjoyment and creativity as central to being human and reflecting God's image.

• Challenging Misconceptions – Addressing how often the Christian story starts with themes of disappointment and restriction rather than joy and abundance.

Resources Mentioned:

• Book of Job – Insights into God's enjoyment of creation (Job 38–39)

• 1 Timothy 4:1–5 – Discussing the goodness of God's creation

• James K.A. Smith – Writings on culture-making and human vocation

• Michael Goheen – Perspectives on cultivating God's good world

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Uncover how reimagining the Image of God can transform our perspectives on disabilities, gender identity, and unity within the church community. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the profound implications of being made in God's image, discussing how this understanding impacts our relationships, church practices, and societal debates on gender and inclusion.

Key Takeaways:

• Embracing the Image of God in All People – Recognizing that every individual, including those with disabilities and diverse gender identities, are bearers of God's image and worthy of dignity and respect.

• Unity in Diversity – Exploring how the unity of humanity is expressed through diversity, reflecting the nature of God and challenging the church to embrace differences within the community.

• Rethinking Traditional Views – Discussing the importance of revisiting traditional interpretations of scripture regarding gender roles and hierarchies, and how this impacts our approach to inclusion and church leadership.

• The Role of the Church – Understanding how the church can become a true community that embodies unity without uniformity and actively includes and supports all individuals.

Guest Highlights:

Seth Erre – Mike's son, who brings unique insights into the discussion on disabilities and the Image of God, highlighting the joy and value found in embracing differences.

Resources Mentioned:

• Genesis 1-3 – Discussions on the biblical passages regarding the Image of God, male and female creation, and implications for humanity.

• Carmen Imes – Referenced for her work on the Image of God.

• Tim Mackie and The Bible Project – Mentioned for insightful teachings on biblical themes.

• Easter Reflections – Themes related to Easter and the significance of resurrection in understanding new creation.

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Explore how recognizing every human as made in the image of God challenges societal norms, reshapes our understanding of human worth, and calls us to value all people regardless of ability or status. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the profound implications of the Imago Dei, discussing how this foundational truth confronts modern idolatry, societal biases, and our own perceptions.

Key Takeaways:

• Every Human as God's Image-Bearer – Understanding that every person, by virtue of being human, reflects the divine image, and how this shapes our interactions and ethics.

• Challenging Cultural Norms – Examining ancient and modern practices that devalue human life based on efficiency, effectiveness, and societal standards.

• Seth's Story – Mike shares personal insights from raising his son Seth, who has Down syndrome, illustrating the beauty and prophetic witness of valuing every life.

• Imago Dei vs. Idolatry – Exploring how the concept of the image of God opposes societal idols of productivity, power, and perfection.

• Implications for Community and Church – Discussing how embracing the Imago Dei affects our approach to issues like politics, inclusion, and the role of the church in society.

Resources Mentioned:

• Being God's Image by Carmen Joy Imes

• The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider

• Genesis 1–3 – Biblical passages on creation and the Imago Dei

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Mike and Tim dive into Genesis 1 to explore what it truly means to be made in the image of God. Challenging traditional notions of sin management, they discuss how embracing our full humanity as God's image bearers transforms our understanding of faith, community, and daily life. Addressing a listener's question about navigating college life, partying, and the complexities of applying faith in real-world situations, they offer insightful perspectives on discernment, wisdom, and living out the gospel authentically.

Key Takeaways:

• The Fullness of Humanity as God's Image – Understanding that being made in God's image encompasses our entire being, not just specific abilities or attributes.
• Moving Beyond Sin Management – Critiquing the limitations of a sin-focused approach to faith and emphasizing the pursuit of Christlikeness in all areas of life.
• Wisdom and Discernment in Modern Challenges – Discussing how to approach topics like partying, alcohol, and relationships with a centered, wisdom-based perspective rather than rigid rules.
• Cultural Context of "Image" and "Likeness" – Exploring ancient Near Eastern concepts of idols and kings to deepen our understanding of what it means to be God's representatives on earth.
• Embracing Our Role as Living Statues of God – Recognizing our calling to reflect God's character and presence in the world, embodying His love and justice in everyday interactions.

Resources Mentioned:

• Genesis 1 – Genesis 1 NIV
• Romans 13 – Romans 13 NIV
• Phil Vischer's Genesis 1 Video on The Holy Post – The Holy Post
• Tim Mackie and The Bible Project – BibleProject
• Ephesians 2 – Ephesians 2 NIV

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Explore how reexamining Genesis 1–3 reveals a richer biblical anthropology, challenging traditional evangelical interpretations and uncovering what it truly means to be human. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the implications of understanding Genesis beyond scientific literalism and how it shapes our perception of Jesus's mission.

Key Takeaways:

• Understanding Genesis Beyond Science – How Genesis focuses on metaphysical questions of meaning and purpose rather than material origins.

• Reframing Our Human Story – Discovering how the starting point of our human story in Genesis impacts our understanding of what Jesus came to do.

• Embracing a Richer Biblical Anthropology – Exploring a more compelling picture of humanity as presented in Genesis, and its implications for mental health, sexuality, and embracing our limitations.

• Moving Beyond Literalism – Discussing how reading Genesis with curiosity and humility allows us to grasp the theological messages intended for the original audience.

Guest Highlights:

Seth Erie – Mike's son joins with humorous interludes, reminding us of the joy and authenticity in being human.

Resources Mentioned:

• John Walton's "The Lost World" Series – [Link]

• Tim Mackey and The Bible Project – thebibleproject.com

• Richard Middleton's "Liberating the Imago Dei" – [Link]

• John Sailhamer's "Genesis Unbound" – [Link]

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Discover how embracing humility and focusing on repair can transform your relationships with your children, regardless of their age. Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and special guest Susie Lind explore the challenges of parenting beyond fear and control, emphasizing the importance of building authentic connections and being present for meaningful repair.

Key Takeaways:

• The Power of Repairing Relationships – Acknowledging past mistakes and being available for repair can strengthen and heal the bonds with your children.
• Parenting Beyond Fear – Understanding how fear influences parenting styles and learning to approach your children with love and connection rather than control.
• Self-Awareness as a Parent – The significance of working on oneself to become a better parent, recognizing personal triggers, and how personal growth impacts your children.
• Redefining Authority – Exploring non-coercive ways to exercise authority through example, patience, and creating a safe environment for your children.

Guest Highlights:

Susie Lind – Pastor, elder, and seminary student at Fuller Seminary. Susie shares her personal journey of parenting four boys, discussing her past emphasis on obedience and independence, and how she learned the beauty and power of repairing relationships through humility and open communication.

Resources Mentioned:

• "Try Softer" by Aundi Kolber – A guide to compassionate self-discovery and healing. Learn more
• Meredith Anne Miller – Author and pastor specializing in helping parents engage their children with the Bible in age-appropriate ways. Follow on Instagram
• "Parenting with Love and Logic" – Practical tools for raising self-confident, motivated children ready for the real world. Learn more

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Unveiling how the early Christians defied cultural norms and how rediscovering their radical approach can transform today's church. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford are joined by Dr. Nijay Gupta to explore the compelling differences between Roman religion and early Christianity, and how modern believers can make Christianity "weird" again by embracing humility, community, and the teachings of Jesus.

Key Takeaways:

• The Six Elements of Roman Religion – Understanding the hierarchical, elitist, and monocultural aspects of Roman faith, and how they contrast with early Christian beliefs.

• Defying the Empire – How the first Christians rejected the norms of Roman religion, including hierarchy, rituals of appeasement, and limited access to the divine.

• The Power of Compelling Community – Exploring how the early church's emphasis on love, equality, and inclusivity drew people in and transformed lives.

• Making Christianity Weird Again Today – Practical steps for modern believers to reclaim the radical nature of early faith, including embracing humility, servant leadership, and authentic relationships with Jesus.

• Avoiding the Pitfalls of Power – Discussing how the modern church can avoid replicating the hierarchical and elitist structures of the Roman Empire.

Guest Highlights:

Dr. Nijay Gupta – New Testament professor and author of Strange Religion: How the First Christians Were Weird, Dangerous, and Compelling. Dr. Gupta shares deep insights into how early Christians stood apart from their culture and encourages us to re-examine how we live out our faith today.

Resources Mentioned:

• Strange Religion by Dr. Nijay Gupta – [Link]

• Philippians 2 – The hymn of Christ's humility.

• Ephesians 4 – On building up the body of Christ.

• Sermon on the Mount – Jesus's teachings on humility, love, and justice.

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