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After Katie opens up about a gruesome injury and Jesse tells a story about a listener's travails at an upscale New York City climbing gym, the hosts discuss Jesse's book, which is out on Tuesday. Specifically, they dig into Comprehensive Soldier Fitness, an anti-PTSD Army program that doesn't work, and the implicit association test, an anti-racism test that... doesn't work. Also, it turns out both hosts are kinda scared of bridges, which feels like something they should dig into at some later date.
Show notes/Links:
THE BOOK:
Jesse's AMA on the subreddit about the book:
Jesse's article on the implicit association test:
Jesse on the contact hypothesis:
The Robin DiAngelo episode:
The Robin DiAngelo bonus episode, which is an interview between Katie and a survivor of one of these trainings:
Kelefa Sanneh on This American Life on diversity trainings:
By Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal4.6
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After Katie opens up about a gruesome injury and Jesse tells a story about a listener's travails at an upscale New York City climbing gym, the hosts discuss Jesse's book, which is out on Tuesday. Specifically, they dig into Comprehensive Soldier Fitness, an anti-PTSD Army program that doesn't work, and the implicit association test, an anti-racism test that... doesn't work. Also, it turns out both hosts are kinda scared of bridges, which feels like something they should dig into at some later date.
Show notes/Links:
THE BOOK:
Jesse's AMA on the subreddit about the book:
Jesse's article on the implicit association test:
Jesse on the contact hypothesis:
The Robin DiAngelo episode:
The Robin DiAngelo bonus episode, which is an interview between Katie and a survivor of one of these trainings:
Kelefa Sanneh on This American Life on diversity trainings:

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