Repentance and forgiveness are central themes of scripture, both Hebrew scriptures and the Gospel, and yet the work of reconciling conflict still feels at times: so confounding, so anaphylactic that you might think that we – as a culture, as a Church – have fudged our resumes.

And yet, matters of conflict and repentance (or unrepentance) and forgiveness feel so prescient and urgent both for our ordinary lives in community and relationship, and for the health of our country, our world. What is forgiveness? How do you forgive? When do you forgive, and when do you withhold forgiveness? What if the other person is unrepentant? What if it’s a series of repeat offenses? What if the conflict is within a community? What if the conflict is between factions, or political parties, or across an unassailable power dynamic? We are not going to solve this puzzle today but we’re going to talk both big and small about this thing: forgiveness. We are so grateful to be joined by the Rev. Cate Anthony in this week!

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