Cancer doesn’t just affect your health. It changes how you see yourself and your life.

In this warm and honest conversation, Chip Conley sits down with Caryn Lerman to explore the emotional side of cancer that often goes unspoken. Together, they talk about identity shifts, caregiving, and what it really means to move through the messy middle of midlife after a diagnosis. 

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• How cancer reshapes identity, not just the body
• Why caregivers carry an invisible emotional load
• What it means to live intentionally after cancer
• How vulnerability can become a source of strength

Watch the full episode and join us for a thoughtful, compassionate conversation about healing, meaning, and becoming who you are now. 

Timestamps:

04:14 Psychology of cancer survivors and caregivers

06:47 Identity loss and existential impact of cancer

07:53 Chip’s cancer diagnosis and early denial

13:13 Regret fear, and emotional processing

16:23 Cancer as a teacher and life priorities

19:39 Anxiety treatment and living with uncertainty

20:33 Staying busy to avoid difficult emotions

24:16 Values family and vulnerability

26:01 Strength identity and emotional suppression

28:01 Caregivers and lack of support systems

30:10 Invisible burden of caregiving

32:06 Emotional catharsis and healing journey

35:32 Caregiver and survivor archetypes

38:49 Inside the cancer thrivers workshop

42:18 Identity mapping and letting go

43:41 Meaning values and intentional living

45:42 How friends can best support someone with cancer

47:26 Cancer is not a linear journey

48:28 Wisdom bumper sticker advice

51:53 Growth outside the comfort zone 

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