In this episode, the girls talk to grief guidance counsellor Lizzie Pickering, who Em has a special personal connection with. Lizzie shares her heart-rending experience of losing her son Harry to a rare form of muscular dystrophy, and explains how her grief taught her to live more in the moment and love even deeper.

If you want to support the publication of Lizzie’s book When Grief Equals Love, you can donate at https://unbound.com/books/when-grief-equals-love/. 

Follow Lizzie @lizzie.pickering on Instagram, and you can find out more about Helen & Douglas House on their website: https://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/

Show timestamps:

Good, Bad & Awkward - 00:02:38

Interview with Lizzie Pickering - 00:15:57

Is It Just Me? - 01:23:00

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Music by Alex Andrew

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