Laci welcomes writer, comedian, and actor Sabrina Wu (Murderbot, Joy Ride) to grab their monocle and magnifying glass and dive into the strange story of Jerry and Rita Alter, a sweet couple from New Mexico who passed away, and may have stolen a $160 million Willem de Kooning painting just to hang it behind their bedroom door.

Plus, in Scammer of the Week: a homeowners’ association goes full villain after Irena Green’s lawn turned a little less green and somehow, it ends with her getting arrested. Stay schemin’!

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Research by Kathryn Doyle 

SOURCES

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/09/nyregion/a-de-kooning-a-theft-and-an-enduring-mystery.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/18/arts/de-kooning-higgins-sharp-harwood-fbi.html?unlocked_article_code=1.YE8.GU2s.vAP6jr-Zr2bc&smid=url-share

The Thief Collector documentary 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/04/fbi-new-mexico-teachers-alleged-art-thieves

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/i-team-investigates/hoa-violations-involving-womans-brown-grass-led-to-her-being-arrested-and-jailed-for-seven-days

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2022/09/15/long-lost-willem-de-kooning-painting-makes-its-way-back-arizona/8058998001/

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/de-kooning-art-theft

https://www.scdailypress.com/2024/03/15/california-writer-finds-two-stolen-works-estate-now-famous-cliff-couple/

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