Why do so many relationships lose intimacy over time, even when love is still there?

In this episode of Midlife Chrysalis, Chip Conley talks with renowned couples therapist Terry Real, creator of Relational Life Therapy and bestselling author of Fierce Intimacy and The New Rules of Marriage. For decades, Terry has helped couples understand why connection fades—and how to rebuild it.

In this conversation, he explains:

• Why love requires skills most people were never taught
• How childhood patterns quietly shape adult relationships
• Why traditional masculinity often blocks emotional intimacy
• How couples can reignite connection in midlife

Terry argues that relationships don’t fail because people stop caring, they fail because no one teaches us how to do intimacy well.

Watch the episode to learn the relationship skills that can change everything.

Timestamps:

01:30 Terry Real joins from Anguilla

03:01 What is Relational Life Therapy (RLT)

03:54 Why RLT takes sides in couples therapy

06:18 The core principles of RLT

08:14 Trauma triggers and childhood patterns in relationships

11:59 What holds men back in relationships

15:04 Redefining masculinity for intimacy

16:25 Patriarchy and the modern relationship crisis

18:23 Relational joy vs gratification culture

22:44 Reigniting intimacy as empty nesters

27:03 Why couples must confront resentment

29:46 Independence vs connection in long-term relationships

33:24 Are you really happy in your relationship

36:53 Why relationships require practice and skill

40:08 Wisdom bumper sticker

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