In this episode of the LSCRE Podcast, Craig McGrouther sits down with Mathew Owens from OCG Properties to explore how the smartest investors approach risk, opportunity, and cash flow.

They discuss how alternative strategies like real estate-backed loans and unique financing structures create consistent returns, and why understanding the numbers is only part of the story. Mathew shares lessons from his investing journey, revealing how disciplined decision-making and long-term planning can protect capital and uncover opportunities others overlook.

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