Stop outsourcing your peace. Feeling better is an inside job.

We often feel exhausted, not because life is so difficult (which it can be), but because our minds are full of old wounds, unresolved feelings, self-destructive stories, and subconscious rules that secretly run the show…and leave us empty. In this episode, Jonathan sits down with acclaimed spiritual teacher and 19-time bestselling author, Iyanla Vanzant, to explore a radically practical idea: spiritual hygiene.

Drawing from her new book Spiritual Hygiene: A Practical Path for Clean Living, Inner Authority, and Divine Freedom, Iyanla offers a grounded, compassionate framework for clearing emotional residue, reclaiming inner authority, and tending to your inner life with the same care you give your outer one.

In this episode, discover:

• The hidden inner rulers like fear, shame, and unforgiveness that quietly shape behavior, identity, and decision making.

• Why we feel spiritually congested, and how constant reliance on external fixes keeps us disconnected from our own inner power.

• What spiritual hygiene actually looks like as a daily practice, not a belief system, and why small, consistent acts matter more than dramatic breakthroughs.

• How to reclaim inner authority without fixing, forcing, or bypassing pain, and why presence is often more powerful than effort.

• A gentler path to healing that does not require perfection, years of struggle, or becoming someone new before you begin.

This is a conversation about cleaning from the inside out. About creating space for clarity, honesty, and peace. And about remembering that your inner life is not something to outsource, avoid, or conquer, but something to care for with intention and respect.

You can find Iyanla at: Website | Instagram | Episode Transcript

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