With and For hosted by Dr. Pam King

With and For Returns for Season 3


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With & For is back with a brand new season exploring spiritual health. 

What is healthy  spirituality exactly, and how does it help us thrive? How do spiritual practices connect us to others? And what does it mean to have a calling in life?

 We have some incredible guests this season – leading thinkers from across faith, art and psychology – like author activist Parker Palmer, self-compassion pioneer Kristin Neff, developmental scientist Richard Lerner and How God Works host David DeSteno.

Hosted by development psychologist, ordained minister and professor Dr. Pam King,  With & For bridges psychology and spiritual wisdom to help you thrive.

 Season three launches January 26th. 


The Thrive Center is an applied research center that exists to catalyze a movement of human thriving, with and for others through spiritual health.

  • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
  • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
  • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter
  • Dr. Pamela Ebstyne King is the Executive Director of the Thrive Center and the Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at the School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy at Fuller Seminary. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With and For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media & Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen
    • Senior Producer: Clare Wiley
    • Executive Producer: Jakob Lewis
    • Produced by Great Feeling Studios
    • Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and Fuller Seminary’s School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. The podcast was made possible through the support from the John Templeton Foundation. The opinions expressed in this publication are those of the host and guests, and do not necessarily reflect the views of the John Templeton Foundation.

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