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‘You Haven’t Seen Anything Yet’: What’s Next if Roe Goes


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It was a historic twist in an already historic case: A draft opinion of a Supreme Court decision overturning two landmark rulings — Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey — leaked to Politico, which published the 98-page document on Monday night. Chief Justice John Roberts said that the draft opinion was authentic but that “it does not represent a decision by the court or the final position of any member on the issues in the case.”

Even with that caveat, it seems to be a sign of where things are headed — the end of abortion rights as a constitutional right in America.

On today’s episode of “The Argument,” Jane Coaston is joined by the Times Opinion columnist Michelle Goldberg and editorial board member Jesse Wegman to discuss the implications of the draft opinion and the future of abortion rights in America.

What is your take on the Roe v. Wade draft leak? We want to hear from you. Share your thoughts on The New York Times website once you’ve listened to the episode.

Mentioned in this episode:

  • Skinner v. Oklahoma ex rel. Williamson Supreme Court case
  • Griswold v. Connecticut Supreme Court case
  • The Next Frontier for the Anti-Abortion Movement: A Nationwide Ban” by Caroline Kitchener in The Washington Post
  • Thoughts on a Post-Roe Agenda” by Patrick T. Brown in National Review

(A full transcript of the episode is available on The Times website.)

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