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August 12137: The Content Trap [Beneath The Protocol Series]
Does healing happen because clients understand their story…
Or because their nervous system reorganizes?
In this episode of the Beneath the Protocol series, Kambria Evans explores one of the most common blind spots in brain-based therapy—what she calls The Content Trap.
Many therapists are trained to organize treatment around narrative: the trauma history, the timeline, the explanation, and the meaning. While understanding a client's story has value, it isn't where transformation primarily occurs.
Instead, real healing happens when clinicians learn to follow activation, not just content.
Whether you practice EMDR, Brainspotting, ART, or other trauma therapies, this episode will help you rethink how you conceptualize cases, identify treatment targets, and recognize nervous system change in real time.
In this episode you'll learn:
What the Content Trap is—and why so many therapists fall into it
Why understanding is not the same as integration
How the nervous system organizes through activation rather than narrative
Why symptoms often function as placeholders for deeper system organization
How to shift from content-driven therapy to systems-based clinical reasoning
Why Phase One of EMDR can unintentionally become a content trap
How to recognize activation as the true entry point for healing
How the Zero Disturbance Systems Method expands traditional brain-based therapy
If you've ever felt stuck trying to "find the right trauma," this episode offers a new framework that may completely change the way you practice.
Ready to move beyond protocols?
If you're ready to strengthen your clinical reasoning and learn to recognize nervous system organization beyond the client's story, The Consultation Program teaches therapists how to integrate systems thinking into brain-based therapy.
Applications are now open. Apply today: https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.
With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
16 min
August 05136: EMDR and Positive Processing [Beneath The Protocol Series]
Why does therapy always have to feel painful for healing to happen?
Many clinicians have been trained to associate therapeutic progress with distress, emotional intensity, and difficult memories. But what if some of the most important nervous system reorganization happens during moments of safety, connection, curiosity, and relief?
In this episode of the Beneath the Protocol series, Kambria Evans challenges one of the biggest assumptions in brain-based therapy and explores why positive activation deserves just as much clinical attention as distress.
Whether you practice EMDR, Brainspotting, ART, somatic therapy, or other trauma-focused approaches, this conversation will expand the way you think about processing, regulation, and nervous system change.
You'll discover why meaningful healing isn't measured by how overwhelmed a client becomes—but by how their system reorganizes over time.
In this episode you'll learn:
Why distress is not the same thing as processing
The difference between activation and emotional intensity
How nervous systems reorganize through both safety and discomfort
Why regulation is not simply the absence of activation
How to recognize meaningful processing outside of traditional EMDR Phase 4
Why therapists often overlook coherent states that are actually producing change
How the Zero Disturbance Systems Method expands traditional trauma therapy
Why learning to perceive organization is more valuable than memorizing protocols
If you've ever wondered whether your clients are "really processing" when they're calm, this episode offers an entirely new framework for understanding therapeutic change. Ready to go beyond protocol?
If you're an EMDR therapist or trauma clinician ready to develop a deeper systems-based understanding of brain-based therapy, apply for The Consultation Program to learn how to recognize real-time nervous system organization, work beyond protocol, and build greater confidence with complex cases. Apply today: https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.
With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
12 min
July 29 135: Brain-Based Therapy: Stop Saying This, Start Saying This [Beneath the Protocol Series]
Many therapy models helped us understand that symptoms make sense, pain deserves attention, and trauma matters.
But what happens when therapy becomes organized only around disturbance?
In this episode of the Zero Disturbance podcast and the Beneath The Protocol series, Kambria Evans explores one of the most overlooked aspects of trauma treatment: language.
The words therapists use—and the words clients use to understand themselves—shape how healing unfolds.
Drawing from the Zero Disturbance Systems Method, Kambria walks through 15 powerful language shifts that move therapy away from pathology, shame, and symptom obsession and toward curiosity, flexibility, and systems-based understanding.
Instead of asking, "What's wrong with me?" what happens when we ask, "What system is producing this response?"
Instead of "I need to face my trauma," what happens when we recognize that parts of us may simply be communicating an SOS?
This conversation offers practical applications for EMDR therapists, Brainspotting practitioners, trauma clinicians, and anyone interested in brain-based therapy.
Connect with Kambria
Interested in learning how to integrate systems thinking into EMDR and brain-based therapies?
Apply to The Consultation Program and join a community of therapists exploring advanced case conceptualization, nervous system healing, dissociation, and systems-based treatment approaches https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.
With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
19 min
July 22134: Beyond EMDR Targets: The Portal Shift in Trauma Therapy [Beneath The Protocol Series]
Most trauma therapies teach clinicians to start with a target.
A memory.
A scene.
A belief.
A moment that can be identified and processed.
But what happens when the nervous system doesn't present distress that way?
In this episode of Beneath the Protocol series on the Zero Disturbance podcast, Kambria Evans explores one of the most overlooked questions in trauma therapy:
What if the system doesn't actually need a fully developed target to begin healing?
Drawing from EMDR, Brainspotting, ART, systems thinking, dissociation research, and emerging brain-based therapy approaches, Kambria introduces the concept of portals—points of activation that provide access to the nervous system without requiring therapists or clients to construct the perfect trauma target.
You'll learn:
Why dissociation controls accessibility, not just memory fragmentation
The limitations of traditional target-based processing
How EMDR, Brainspotting, ART, and other modalities create access points into the nervous system
Why positive states like calm, safety, and connection can become powerful portals for healing
How systems-based approaches create more flexibility in trauma treatment
Why forcing a target often creates frustration for both clinicians and clients
How the Zero Disturbance Systems Method helps therapists recognize activation in real time
Whether you're an EMDR therapist, Brainspotting practitioner, ART clinician, or simply interested in brain-based therapy, this conversation will expand the way you think about healing, nervous system organization, and trauma processing. The Consultation Program was built for these teachings. Sign up today: https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.
With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
14 min
July 15133: EMDR Targeting Explained: Memory vs. Systems Approach [Beneath the Protocol Series]
In this episode of the Beneath the Protocol series, Kambria Evans explores one of the most common points of confusion for EMDR therapists: target selection. While EMDR training teaches clinicians to identify target memories across the past, present, and future, real clinical work often looks very different.
Clients don't always present with clear memories. Sometimes they bring body sensations, emotional states, relational patterns, identity beliefs, protective parts, or a vague sense that "it's everything."
So what happens when the system doesn't organize around a single memory?
Kambria introduces the distinction between memory-based targeting and a systems-based approach through the Zero Disturbance Systems Method. You'll learn why experienced therapists often expand beyond traditional target selection, how system-wide activation changes the way we conceptualize EMDR treatment, and why tracking where disturbance is organized may be more clinically useful than searching for the "right" memory.
This conversation is especially valuable for EMDR therapists, Brainspotting practitioners, ART therapists, and trauma clinicians interested in brain-based therapy, nervous system regulation, complex trauma, and systems-informed treatment.
In This Episode
Why EMDR target selection creates confusion for many clinicians
The difference between memory-based targeting and systems-based targeting
Why clients often struggle to identify a single target memory
How body sensations, relational patterns, and protective parts become clinically relevant
Why "everything feels like the target" in complex trauma work
The shift from finding memories to locating disturbance
How the Zero Disturbance Systems Method helps therapists navigate complexity
Why therapist confusion is often a systems issue rather than a skill issue
How EMDR can work alongside Brainspotting, ART, IFS, and other trauma modalities
Practical ways to think about activation, organization, and clinical decision-making
Key Takeaway
The question may not be:
"What memory should I target?"
The better question may be:
"Where is the system currently organizing disturbance?"
When therapists learn to track systems instead of chasing the perfect memory, EMDR becomes less rigid, more precise, and significantly easier to apply in complex trauma work.
Learn More
The Consultation Program teaches the Zero Disturbance Systems Method, a systems-based framework designed to help therapists move beyond protocol dependency and develop greater confidence, clarity, and clinical discernment.
Designed for:
EMDR Therapists
Brainspotting Practitioners
ART Therapists
IFS-Informed Clinicians
Trauma Specialists
Inside the program, clinicians learn how to:
Understand system-wide activation
Work with dissociation and protective organization
Improve case conceptualization
Identify meaningful entry points for processing
Integrate multiple modalities through a systems lens
Reduce therapist confusion and burnout
If you're ready to stop chasing the "right target" and start understanding the system in front of you, The Consultation Program was built for exactly that transition. Sign up today: https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources
Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.
With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
18 min
July 08132: When EMDR Targets Stop Making Sense [Beneath The Protocol Series]
One of the biggest frustrations EMDR clinicians face is the feeling that sessions aren't unfolding the way they were taught in basic training.
You identify a target.
You start processing.
And then everything shows up at once.
A memory from childhood.
An emotion in the present.
A fear about next week.
A moment of relief.
So what do you do?
In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans explores why real trauma processing rarely follows a neat, linear path and why many clinicians feel stuck trying to force complex systems into rigid protocols.
You'll learn:
Why trauma systems activate across past, present, and future simultaneously
The limitations of target-focused processing
Why activation is bigger than distress alone
How positive, negative, and mixed states coexist in trauma work
The difference between EMDR and The Zero Disturbance Systems Method
How to know when EMDR is the right tool—and when it isn't
Why forcing a target can actually slow down processing
How to create more ease for both clinician and client
This conversation is especially valuable for EMDR therapists, Brainspotting therapists, ART therapists, and clinicians interested in brain-based therapy, nervous system healing, and complex trauma treatment.
If you need support navigating trauma processing we’ve created the space just for you. Join The Consultation Program today! Enroll here: https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022
Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources
Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.

With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
20 min
July 01131: Beyond EMDR: The System Beneath It [Beneath The Protocol Series]
Are therapy protocols actually neutral?
In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans explores the hidden value systems behind EMDR, Brainspotting, ART, and other trauma modalities—and why understanding those values is essential for effective, brain-based therapy.
While EMDR revolutionized trauma treatment, it was developed in a different scientific era—before modern neuroscience, systems thinking, and nervous system research reshaped how we understand healing.
This episode breaks down:
Why protocols reflect the time and science they were created in
How neuroscience and systems-based therapy have shifted clinical understanding
Why symptom reduction isn’t the same as integration
How clinicians can move from protocol-driven work to system-based perception
If you’ve ever felt like something in your sessions doesn’t fully make sense—this episode will give you language, clarity, and a new framework to work from.
Resources & Next Steps:
If you’re ready to move beyond rigid protocols and learn how to work with the nervous system and full system organization of your clients:
👉 Apply for The Consultation Program: https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022
Inside, you’ll learn:
The Zero Disturbance Systems Method
How to track system organization in real time
How to move beyond protocol memorization
How to work confidently with complex trauma
Brainspotting and ART clinicians are welcome!
Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.

With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
21 min
June 24130: EMDR Feels Harder Than It Should—Here’s Why [Beneath The Protocol Series]
If you’ve ever felt like you’re constantly adjusting, rescuing, or managing your EMDR sessions… this episode will change how you see everything.
In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, we break down why EMDR gets “stuck”—and why the modifications you’re using might actually be signals from the system, not problems to fix.
This is a must-listen for clinicians working with:
Complex trauma
Dissociation
Nervous system dysregulation
Clients who loop, shut down, or don’t progress
You’ll learn:
Why EMDR basic training doesn’t fully prepare you for complex systems
What over-activation, under-activation, and looping actually mean
Why “finding the right target” isn’t enough
How to shift from protocol-tracking → system-tracking
The foundation of the Zero Disturbance Systems Method
This episode reframes trauma therapy through a brain-based, systems lens—so you can stop overmanaging sessions and start working with clarity and ease.
👉 If this sounds familiar, you’re not the only one running into this.
Watch the full episode to understand what’s actually happening—and how to work with it.
Ready to go deeper?
The Zero Disturbance Consultation Program is where clinicians learn how to:
Work with complex trauma systems in real time
Understand dissociation as structure—not disruption
Use EMDR with precision instead of guesswork
Utilize The Zero Disturbance Protocol Map
Apply The Zero Disturbance Systems Method
✔️ Open to EMDR, Brainspotting, and ART clinicians
👉 Apply here: https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.
With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
16 min
June 17129: What EMDR Training Didn’t Teach You [Beneath the Protocol Series]
Why does EMDR feel so confusing after basic training—even when you’re “doing it right”?
In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans breaks down the 10 most common frustrations EMDR clinicians experience and the missing piece that changes everything: understanding the system, not just the protocol.
This is a must-listen for clinicians working in brain-based therapy, trauma therapy, EMDR, Brainspotting, and ART.
You’ll learn:
Why knowing the protocol isn’t the same as knowing what you’re doing
Why clients loop, shut down, or don’t “process”
How dissociation actually organizes the system
Why EMDR is a tool—not the system itself
The real reason clinicians feel stuck after training
Ready to stop guessing and actually understand what’s happening in session?
Apply for The Consultation Program (EMDR, Brainspotting & ART therapists welcome): https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022
Listen to What EMDR Training Didn’t Teach You [Beneath the Protocol Series] now: (link)

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.

With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
22 min
June 10128: The Truth About Dissociation in EMDR [Beneath the Protocol Series]
Why does EMDR sometimes feel like it stops working?
In this episode of the Zero Disturbance podcast, Kambria Evans breaks down one of the most misunderstood concepts in EMDR and trauma therapy: dissociation.
If you’ve ever experienced:
Clients shutting down mid-session
Flat affect or “nothing’s coming up”
Looping without resolution
EMDR suddenly “not working”
This episode will help you make sense of it through a brain-based therapy lens.
You’ll learn:
Why dissociation is not zoning out—but system organization
How dissociation regulates access to trauma memory networks
Why EMDR can hit a wall with complex trauma
How parts and protectors manage exposure in real time
What clinicians actually need to do instead
This is essential listening for EMDR clinicians working with:
Complex trauma
Dissociation
Nervous system dysregulation
The Consultation Program
If you’ve ever felt stuck, confused, or underprepared working with dissociation—this is exactly why the Zero Disturbance Consultation Program exists.
Inside, we teach:
✔️ How dissociation structures access in real time
✔️ Parts-informed, brain-based EMDR
✔️ Nervous system tracking + system mapping
✔️ What to do when EMDR “stops working” with the Zero Disturbance Systems Method
✔️ How to work with complex trauma safely and confidently
👉 Apply here: https://www.zerodisturbance.com/consultation-2022

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:
Want to learn more about empowering yourself on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, here's more ways to learn with Kambria! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/workwithkambria
We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.
Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.

With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.
24 min