Josh Braun, former client and founder of Sales DNA joins me in a somewhat different episode.

Normally before we start recording John and the guest will warm up and go over what we talk about on the podcast.

This conversation was so good, and covers a story I've told often in training about going in prepared, we decided to leave it in to start the podcast.

The "traditional" intro starts around the 21:35 mark getting into messaging and sales.