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Sjanie Hugo Wurlitzer and Alexandra Pope are pioneers in the emerging field of menstruality, which my spell check says isn’t even a word! Basically they have created a new lexicon, along with a new approach not only to our health and wellbeing, but our creativity and leadership, and our spiritual life – all based on becoming conscious of the power of monthly cycles. They are the co-founders of Red School, and co-authors of Wild Power: discover the magic of the menstrual cycle and awaken the feminine path to power . Their menopause book Wise Power: Discover the liberating power of menopause to awaken authority, purpose and belonging came out in 2022. I tried to interview them then, sent a few emails, didn’t hear anything back. And then, they wrote to me – and as you will hear, they did it right at the perfect time. 

Between Sjanjie and Alexandra they have more than 45 years of experience doing this kind of work, and today they teach around the world, helping women understand that from puberty to perimenopause and beyond, we are engaged in a bio-psycho-social-spiritual process of maturing… A message that is very, very different to what most of us are used to getting. 

The discussion covers the practical and cyclical nature of menopause, the significance of menstrual cycle awareness, and the power of self-care and setting boundaries. They also address the often-overlooked grief and the mental health challenges associated with menopause, emphasizing the need for community, support, and a broader societal understanding of this pivotal life stage. The episode concludes with a look at the potential of menopause as a time of personal and spiritual awakening, offering practical tips and discussing their upcoming course to help women navigate this profound transition.

00:00 Introduction to Perimenopause and Menopause

00:20 Challenges in Finding Menopause Support

00:42 The Role of MidiHealth

01:18 Personal Journey and Podcast Sponsorship

04:54 The Impact of 'Wise Power' Book

07:49 Menopause as a Transformative Experience

09:57 Cycle Awareness and Menopause

15:49 Navigating Menopause with Awareness

26:16 The Power of Menopause

37:11 Acknowledging the Struggles of Menopause

38:33 The Role of Modern Medicine

39:06 Cultural Crisis and Menopause

40:28 The Importance of Community Support

42:42 Practical Tips for Navigating Menopause

46:56 Embracing the Power of 'No'

47:36 Navigating Relationship Changes

53:26 The Psychological and Spiritual Journey

54:13 Addressing the Topic of Suicide

01:01:20 The Intersection of Menopause and Global Awakening

01:07:11 Redefining Menopause

01:11:13 Course Information and Final Thoughts

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