Phil Watters   Premiership Assistant Referee Phil Watters and I were team-mates at Cheltenham RFC many moons ago and more recently, he was AR in a game I played for Ealing.   This interview was recorded in August of 2019 and we talked about playing and coaching the England Police and Phil’s transition into refereeing including some incredible insights into the role of the modern day official.   LINKS You can get hold of Phil on Instagram @daddles2243 (https://www.instagram.com/daddles2243/) England Police RUFC (https://www.pitchero.com/clubs/englandpolicerufc/)     PODCAST KIT Everything I use to create, edit and produce this podcast can be found on my Creating a Podcast (https://www.amateurrugbypodcast.com/creating-a-podcast/) page.