The Steep Stuff Podcast

#136 - Alicia Vargo


Listen Later

Send us a text

A broken back, a fractured knee, and nearly a year off running—then podiums at Pikes Peak Ascent, Kodiak, and Moab. That’s the arc Alicia Vargo takes us through, sharing how a brutal dog attack in 2024 unraveled her season and how skate skiing, patience, and stubborn belief stitched it back together. We start with her fresh Moab Trail Half podium and the course’s split personality—slickrock step-ups, sandy slogs, and off-road pavement—before moving into the training mindset that keeps her sharp late in the year.

From there, we head home to Breckenridge. Alicia talks altitude as the quiet performance lever, the surprising strength of the local community, and why winter skimo and skate skiing are the perfect mix to preserve fitness without the pounding. Then we go deep on her recovery: delayed diagnoses, crutches, months of uncertainty, and the tentative first races at Broken Arrow that proved her body could hold. She opens up about Sierre-Zinal’s balcony trail, heat shock, and the crowded chaos of European starts where elbows fly and gels get trampled.

We zoom out to the sport’s big questions. Should women have separate starts or days? Alicia weighs the trade-offs—clear competition and spotlight versus thin fields and lost atmosphere. She revisits the early Nike Trail years, shifting to Hoka, and why the sport once nudged athletes toward ultras due to a lack of short trail opportunities. Now, with Golden Trail, Broken Arrow, and the Rut, short trail finally looks like the welcoming on-ramp for D1 talent and the most TV-ready version of mountain running.

We also talk storytelling. What Coca-Dona got right with long-form livestreams. Why commentators who race—like Dani Moreno—can translate chaos into context. And why Alicia’s skeptical about the Olympics reshaping trail into a TV-friendly shadow of itself, much like skimo’s shift. Through it all, her message is grounded and energizing: protect the mountain identity, invest in women’s race formats, tell better stories, and give athletes the room to come back strong.

If this conversation hits, follow and share. Subscribe on YouTube for 4K episodes, drop a rating on Apple or Spotify, and tell a friend who loves steep stuff and strong comebacks.

Follow Alicia on IG - @aliciavargo

Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello

Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod

Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

The Steep Stuff PodcastBy James Lauriello

  • 4.9
  • 4.9
  • 4.9
  • 4.9
  • 4.9

4.9

43 ratings


More shows like The Steep Stuff Podcast

View all
Trail Runner Nation by Trail Runner Nation

Trail Runner Nation

1,177 Listeners

Human Performance Outliers Podcast with Zach Bitter by Zach Bitter

Human Performance Outliers Podcast with Zach Bitter

576 Listeners

For The Long Run: Exploring the Why Behind Running by Jonathan Levitt

For The Long Run: Exploring the Why Behind Running

426 Listeners

The Freetrail Podcast with Dylan Bowman by Dylan Bowman

The Freetrail Podcast with Dylan Bowman

779 Listeners

Some Work, All Play by David Roche and Megan Roche

Some Work, All Play

1,849 Listeners

Uphill Athlete Podcast by Uphill Athlete

Uphill Athlete Podcast

180 Listeners

Singletrack by Finn Melanson

Singletrack

938 Listeners

Trail Society by FREETRAIL

Trail Society

289 Listeners

The Trailhead by UltraSignup

The Trailhead

110 Listeners

Crack A Brew With AJW by Andy Jones-Wilkins

Crack A Brew With AJW

166 Listeners

Everyday Ultra by Joe Corcione

Everyday Ultra

185 Listeners

The Boulder Boys Show by The Boulder Boys

The Boulder Boys Show

177 Listeners

The Trail Network Podcast by The Trail Network Podcast

The Trail Network Podcast

90 Listeners

evokecast by Coach Scott Johnston and the Evoke Endurance Collective

evokecast

44 Listeners

Between Two Pines by UltraSignup

Between Two Pines

178 Listeners