Erica & Ali are diving into the apps with dating coach & app expert Erika Ettin of @alittlenudge. We talk about whether it really matters what opener you send (hint: YES), how to deal with dating app burnout, and why Erika recommends dating NATO (not attached to outcome).

But first, Erica is back from a rejuvenating Bachelorette weekend while Ali had quite the week of first dates (with 2 new nicknames!).

Where to find Erika: On Instagram @alittlenudge, on TikTok @alittlenudge, at www.alittlenudge.com.

Timestamps: Erika joins us at around minute 22.

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