The Unteachables Podcast

#168: What schools get profoundly wrong — with Andy Hargreaves


Listen Later

What does it actually mean to be a professional in teaching? Not just "treated like one" — but what does professional knowledge, professional growth, and professional community actually look like in practice?

I got to sit down with one of the most cited education scholars alive — the incredible Andy Hargreaves — and honestly, I could have talked to him for hours. Andy is an author or editor of 40 books, an education advisor to governments across multiple countries, and the co-creator of the concept of Professional Capital — a framework that has genuinely changed the way educators and systems think about what it means to invest in teachers.

This is one of those episodes that I think is going to hit differently depending on where you are in your career. Whether you're in your first few years wondering if it's all worth it, or you're a seasoned teacher who's lost a bit of your spark, or you're a school leader trying to figure out why your staff keep burning out — Andy has something for you.

Here's a taste of what we got into:

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • What professional capital actually is — and the three types every teacher already has (and needs to grow)
  • Why staying in teaching longer than three years isn't just "getting expensive" — it's where the real expertise is built
  • The chess metaphor that will completely reframe how you see your early career (and honestly, any career stage)
  • What Andy believes schools are profoundly getting wrong about teacher wellbeing right now
  • Why "wellbeing add-ons" like yoga and meditation won't fix what's actually causing teacher ill-being
  • The three biggest causes of ill-being in schools — including one that hits way too close to home for Australian teachers
  • What collective autonomy means and why individual autonomy alone isn't the answer
  • Why the most powerful thing you can do as a teacher might be to fight for your autonomy together, not alone
  • What Andy will be sharing at EduTech Sydney — including his fascinating "teaching as repair work" framework

Have a question, comment, or just want to say hello? Drop us a text!

RESOURCES AND MORE SUPPORT:

  • Shop all resources
  • Join The Behaviour Club
  • My book! It’s Never Just About the Behaviour: A holistic approach to classroom behaviour management 
  • The Low-Level Behaviour Bootcamp
  • Free guide: 'Chats that Create Change'

Connect with me:

  • Follow on Instagram @the.unteachables
  • Check out my website


...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

The Unteachables PodcastBy Claire English

  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8

4.8

42 ratings


More shows like The Unteachables Podcast

View all
The Cult of Pedagogy Podcast by Jennifer Gonzalez

The Cult of Pedagogy Podcast

2,422 Listeners

Angela Watson's Truth for Teachers by Angela Watson

Angela Watson's Truth for Teachers

1,250 Listeners

What Fresh Hell: Parenting, Relationships, and Making Life Better, with Two Funny Moms by Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson

What Fresh Hell: Parenting, Relationships, and Making Life Better, with Two Funny Moms

1,007 Listeners

Neurodiversity Podcast by Emily Kircher-Morris

Neurodiversity Podcast

418 Listeners

ADHD for Smart Ass Women with Tracy Otsuka by Tracy Otsuka

ADHD for Smart Ass Women with Tracy Otsuka

45 Listeners

I Have ADHD Podcast by Kristen Carder

I Have ADHD Podcast

2,868 Listeners

Melissa & Lori Love Literacy ® | Science of Reading for Teachers by Supported by Great Minds

Melissa & Lori Love Literacy ® | Science of Reading for Teachers

432 Listeners

Science of Reading: The Podcast by Amplify Education

Science of Reading: The Podcast

647 Listeners

Wannabe Clutter Free | Declutter, Simplify, Find Freedom by Deanna Yates | Professional Organizer, Decluttering Coach, Wannabe Minimalist

Wannabe Clutter Free | Declutter, Simplify, Find Freedom

392 Listeners

Reach All Readers by Anna Geiger

Reach All Readers

207 Listeners

Born to Be Free: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients to Learn, Play, & Thrive by Meg Ferrell

Born to Be Free: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients to Learn, Play, & Thrive

234 Listeners

Good Inside with Dr. Becky by Good Inside

Good Inside with Dr. Becky

4,485 Listeners

We Can Do Hard Things by Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

We Can Do Hard Things

41,329 Listeners

The Knowledge Matters Podcast by Knowledge Matters

The Knowledge Matters Podcast

176 Listeners

Chalk & Talk by Anna Stokke

Chalk & Talk

82 Listeners