Ever since my friend Jess Murnane told me about Phoebe I wanted to be her friend. It wasn't until I met her in person for the is podcast that I truly realized how smart, funny, wise, and interesting she is. She's one of those people I could talk to for hours and in this episode I did. We recorded this conversation a couple weeks ago in Williamsburg, Brooklyn over cranberry kombucha. Phoebe recently wrote her second book book, The Wellness Project, which highlights so much of what I have been trying to integrate into my life over the past couple years: balancing healthy habits with enjoyment of life (or as Phoebe describes it health vs. hedonism). We also talk about the balance between being ambitious and letting things happen without  pushing and about following your passion even when the path is unclear. Between all these topics you'll hear about my kitchen horror stories (knife scars and all) along with laughs of us bonding over being only children and loving New York City. This is my favorite episode I've done in a while and I think you'll love it too. 

-Phoebe's Website | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube  Pintrest

-Her new book: The Wellness Project 

-Amber Rae -- she talks about the three hats that creative entrepreneurs wear: the editor, the agent, the artist

-Citizen Jane Battle for the City - documentary

-Ina Garten (the Barefoot Contessa) was her father's friend when she was growing up

-more about Hashimoto's thyroiditis and Perioral Dermatitis

-her first website was Big Girls Small Kitchen (which is still run from her friend Cara)

-Books we mention:: Gretchen Rubin's book The Happiness Project (was an inspiration for her book), The Book of Laughter and Forgetting by Milan Kundera, The 5 Love Languages by Gary Chapman

-Movies:: Pride and Prejudice, Wonder Woman, Harry Potter movies

-Lynn Chen - listen to my podcast episode with her, we talk about how she and her boyfriend read to each other at night

-NY Times Crossword app we're loving loving

-Article about productivity and what's really holding you back

-Places to eat in NYC:: Hu Kitchen, Jeffrey’s Grocery, Joseph Leonard

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