In this episode, Knox McCoy and Jason Waterfalls discuss the recent announcement of the Golden Globes honoring podcasts, and the upcoming ESPN direct-to-consumer service, including their thoughts on branding and expectations for ESPN's streaming service. 

They also delve into the current state of college athletics, focusing on the implications of NIL legislation and the involvement of prominent figures like Nick Saban. They wrap up with a discussion on ongoing NBA playoffs, and which underdog can pull off the upset.