In this week's episode Stefanie talks to Lorcan Nyhan about the roadmap the Irish Government released last week for reopening the country. We want to find out when we can do things again. When can we visit our relatives in other counties, when can our friends have their wedding, when will anyone go to a nightclub again, when can we get brunch with our partners, will we ever get a sun holiday again? Is there any way back to the old normal? 

Lorcan is the head of training at the communications clinic - and is the perfect person to make sense of a lengthy document with graphs and tables. 

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Thanks to Cathal O'Gara for our artwork and and our music is from Only Ruin.