Many of the best innovators in art, science, human rights, and other important areas of life have had one thing in common: they were rebels.

In some way, they refused to subordinate themselves by merely doing what was expected of them. Instead, they changed the way things were done… for the better. I’m not talking about reckless insubordination—the kind a character like Joker from Batman engages in. Instead, I’m referring to the principled version, the kind that Gandhi or MLK have exhibited in which people followed their hearts, their moral compasses, and the world would become a better place for it.

Dr. Todd Kashdan (https://toddkashdan.com/) is a professor at George Mason University and a leading authority on well-being, curiosity, courage, and resilience. He has published more than 220 scientific articles, his work has been cited more than 46,000 times, and he received the American Psychological Association's Award for Distinguished Scientific Early Career Contributions to Psychology. He’s also the author of a book I loved that is the subject of this interview called The Art of Insubordination: How to Dissent and Defy Effectively. I am not alone as the book has been praised by multiple thought leaders like Robert Cialdini, Seth Godin, and Susan David.

So, listen in as Todd and I talk about principled insubordination.

Linkedin: @toddkashdan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddkashdanInstagram: @toddkashdanThreads: @toddkashdanTwitter: @toddkashdanFacebook: @ToddKashdan https://www.facebook.com/public/Todd-Kashdan