You don’t earn the title “Dr.” and then co-author a book about kindness by sticking to a script. 

In Part 1, Nicole F. Roberts—Doctor of Public Health, neuroscience nerd, and co-author of Generosity WINS—takes us through her very non-linearjourney. From failed chemistry dreams to starting a human rights firm during her PhD “break,” Nicole’s path proves that detours can be more meaningful than the original plan.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Chemistry Flop That Sparked a New Career – “I realized I was terrible at chemistry… and didn’t want to spend life writing prescriptions.”

From Neuroscience to Public Policy to Public Health – The career pivot map that should be framed as modern art.

A Six-Month Break That Turned Into Six Years – “My dissertation chair died. I got divorced. So I started a human rights firm.” (As one does.)

Why Policy ≠ Change – “Policy is great—until politics gets involved. I needed to see the change I wanted to make.”

Finding Her Real Voice – How lived experience reshaped her doctoral research and her purpose.

If you’ve ever hit pause on your career, doubted your direction, or rerouted your GPS mid-PhD—this episode is proof it’s not the end. It might be the best part.

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Dr. Nicole F. Roberts

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