We all want to see ourselves as good people, but everybody has the capacity to hurt others when we don't understand them.

Today I'm chatting with with nonbinary author, actor, and activist Jeffrey Marsh about how you can celebrate those with diverse identities even before you know all the rules, how to be an ally without being perfect, and some practical tips for being comfortable with they/them pronouns. Plus: Jeffrey tells me about their biggest childhood inspirations and their new book, "How to be you."

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