The Modern Manager

348: Master Collaboration and Leadership Using Improv Techniques with Joel Zeff


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Most workplaces focus too much on structure and not enough on fun. But what if the secret to a thriving team was something unexpected—like improv? Fortunately, today’s guest is here to break down everything you need to know about improv and how it can benefit you and your team.


Meet Joel Zeff. Joel creates energy. His spontaneous humor and vital messages have thrilled audiences for more than 25 years. As a national speaker, work culture expert, author, and humorist, Joel captivates audiences with a unique blend of hilarious improvisational comedy and essential ideas on work and life. 


He has shared his experience and insight on collaboration, leadership, change, communication, innovation, fun and passion at more than 2,500 events. His new book, “Make the Right Choice: Lead with Passion, Elevate Your Team, and Unleash the Fun at Work,” is now available.


In this episode, you’ll discover practical ideas for bringing fun into the workplace—from skit nights to appreciation rituals–in ways that translate to greater collaboration every day. Joel and I also discuss why great leaders should focus on setting their teams up for success rather than simply directing them.


Plus, in the extended episode available to Podcast+ members, we talk about navigating change with an improv-inspired mindset.


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Conversation Topics

  • (00:00) Introduction
  • (02:49) How improv principles improve teamwork and leadership
  • (05:31) Examples of improv games and their workplace implications
  • (13:07) Why fun at work matters (and how to introduce it)
  • (17:15) Building “team currency” through shared experiences
  • (22:07) The best question a leader can ask
  • (26:10) How to facilitate an improv game with your team
  • (30:53) A great manager Joel has worked for
  • (34:49) Keep up with Joel
  • (36:33) [Extended Episode Only] How to navigate change with an improv mindset
  • (43:07) [Extended Episode Only] The one thing you can’t do in improv (and why it matters for teams)


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