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This was a painful episode to record. I care a lot about Mari as from having many conversations with her I understand deeply how she has a very kind heart. And so it was hard to hear how much she had been through.

But, afterwards I did also think to myself how important it is to acknowledge that life is full of ups and downs. We all go through bad stuff, just some of us go through much worse than others.

And on this podcast, we have one mission - to help people quit porn addiction.

That involves facing a range of emotions, hard truths and getting stuck into facing our own minds.

I am grateful Mari shared this with us today and I hope it helps someone get one step closer towards permanent freedom from porn. The alternative could be bleak.