In today's episode, Tim interviews John Fugelsang, author of 'The Separation of Church and Hate.' They discuss John's upbringing in a Catholic household, the hijacking of Christianity by fundamentalists, and the challenges of engaging with those who hold extremist views. The conversation also touches on the role of media in shaping perceptions of Christianity, the impact of Trump on evangelicalism, and the importance of shared values in combating Christian nationalism. John emphasizes the need for Christians to return to the teachings of Jesus and to advocate for love and compassion in society.

John's Book | Separation of Church and Hate: A Sane Person's Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds

John on Twitter | @Johnfugelsang

Chapters

02:45 John's Background and Early Influences

08:29 Engaging with Fundamentalism

14:47 Cognitive Dissonance in Evangelicalism

20:42 The Challenge of Critical Thinking in Faith

38:30 The Role of Media in Shaping Narratives

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