This week Stefanie is a little bit starstruck as she talks to someone who has greatly influenced her, Kathryn Mannix, an expert in death. They talk about death in a very refreshing way, what it is like for the person it's happening to, and how people around that person should feel. Why sleep is important near the end of life, what new ways we should think about this inevitable phenomenon, and much more.

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Thanks to Cathal O'Gara for our artwork and our music is from Only Ruin.