So you are really passionate about regenerative, sustainable agriculture and food, right?

And how many times have you heard, "Yes, that's all very nice but you couldn't feed the world that way; it wouldn't work at scale!"

In this episode I talk to Sir Patrick Holden, the man who's building the roadmap to show us that it could.

You'll hear us talk about his latest research into how the UK could feed itself using fertiliser/pesticide-free sustainable agriculture (with no grain-fed animals!), the tools to take this global, and how this lifetime campaigner for sustainable animal-involved agriculture feels about lab meat, supermarkets, ground-up change and much more.

We're so grateful to him for sharing a little of his 50 year career as both a farmer and an activist with us.

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What We Talk About:

* The Sustainable Food Trust's recent report 'Feeding Britain From The Ground Up'

* How the UK could grow its staple foods using regenerative agriculture

* The roadblocks in the way of this change and how we can address them

* The metric being developed that would allow farmers worldwide to measure their sustainability using the same framework

* Whether there's a role for laboratory-generated meat in a sustainable food future

* Whether this shift needs to come from top-down or bottom-up

* What, if you can't give them up, you need to be asking the supermarkets you shop at

* What Sir Patrick thinks we need now in order to create the change

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Resources:

• Download The Sustainable Food Trust's report 'Feeding Britain From The Ground Up' here. 
• There are three videos that succinctly and clearly explain the report and its findings: Introduction video, What We'd Eat video, and Potential Stumbling Blocks video 
• SFT on Instagram 
• Patrick's farm on Instagram 

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