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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the pivotal life experiences that helped them in their careers in unexpected ways. Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle’s personal stories of rock-bottom moments and personal epiphanies that have ultimately made them better at their jobs.
00:00 Intro
03:13 Kyle’s biggest experience with failure
08:06 Kaila’s biggest experience with failure
11:54 The non-work things that have contributed to Kaila’s and Kyle’s careers
16:35 What Kyle learned from making his first podcast
19:28 An early epiphany in Kaila’s career
21:55 The international experience that changed Kaila’s perspective
27:40 What Kyle’s learned about cold-emailing people he admires
This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14.
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Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!
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By Morning Brew4.2
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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the pivotal life experiences that helped them in their careers in unexpected ways. Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle’s personal stories of rock-bottom moments and personal epiphanies that have ultimately made them better at their jobs.
00:00 Intro
03:13 Kyle’s biggest experience with failure
08:06 Kaila’s biggest experience with failure
11:54 The non-work things that have contributed to Kaila’s and Kyle’s careers
16:35 What Kyle learned from making his first podcast
19:28 An early epiphany in Kaila’s career
21:55 The international experience that changed Kaila’s perspective
27:40 What Kyle’s learned about cold-emailing people he admires
This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14.
Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/
Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:
@PerMYLastEmailShow
Follow Per My Last Email
Instagram: @permylastemailshow
TikTok: @permylastemailshow
Twitter: @permylast_email
Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected]
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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