When Rob Mallan was incarcerated for 18 months, he came to a strange realization; behind bars, he felt more free than he did in the outside world. After some soul searching, Rob discovered that he had created his own prison in attempt to cope with the bad things in his life. But, he reasoned, if my mindset can get me in here, it can also get me out.

Welcome back! This week, Kelly is joined by the relentlessly quotable Rob Mallan, author, speaker, and host of the Talk That Transforms Podcast, to talk about taking action. While it’s important to sit in your shit and feel your feelings, you also need to fight your way out. In this podcast, Rob and Kelly share some of the tools they use for dealing with life’s challenges: 

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