Today's recap episode revisit Lesley’s conversation with Sarah Rhoads, founder of Commbi Shoes. They explore Sarah’s journey from a thriving photography career to becoming an innovative footwear entrepreneur, the intentional choices behind her reinvention, and how she learned to chase fear instead of letting it chase her. This recap digs into the role of curiosity, alignment, and persistence in turning a personal problem into a purpose-driven product.

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• Redefining fear as a signal for growth instead of a stop sign.
• Why trust and self-belief is crucial when building a business.
• The importance of protecting your autonomy to avoid burnout.
• Why specific regular habits are a form of prioritizing self-care.

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• Commbi Website - https://www.commbi.co (Use code: BEIT10 for 10% off!)
• Ep 547 - Dr. Jennifer Perez - https://beitpod.com/gaithappens

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

If you're normally saying no to 80% of opportunities, maybe say yes to, like, 35% and just like, start to get warmed up by that muscle and have some fun with it, because it does lead to everything. 

Brad Crowell 0:10  

Everything Leads to everything. 

Lesley Logan 0:13  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:56  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the trailblazing convo, can I say that one more time? Dig into the trailbr. 

Brad Crowell 1:05  

Wow. Maybe you can't.

Lesley Logan 1:08  

I might not be able to wave it in. Dig into the trailblazing convo I had with Sarah Rhoads in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, you should. You'll also hear me fuck up her the name of her business right after she told me exactly how not to say it. And I just want to apologize, Sarah, you told me, I heard you. I was like, yeah, don't call it that, and then called it that. And I just want to say, like, I it wasn't intentional. Anyways, we'll get into Sarah Rhoads and her amazingness in just a second. 

Lesley Logan 1:38  

But Today is August 21st 2025 and it's Internet Self-Care Day. 

Brad Crowell 1:42  

Yes, it is. 

Lesley Logan 1:42  

So after this, probably get off the internet, is what it's going to say. But listen to this first. Internet Self-Care Day is celebrated each year on August 21st. This holiday is dedicated to using the internet to, oh, actually, it's different than I thought. 

Brad Crowell 1:56  

Yes, it is. 

Lesley Logan 1:56  

Using the internet to find resources that can help you take care of yourself. Many of us are so preoccupied with taking care of others, whether at work or at home, that we forget to take care of ourselves. Not these Be It Pod listeners, right? Self-Care is described as caring for oneself through practices that promote. I just love how they use that word to define the word. They do it all the time. Self-care is described as caring for oneself through practices that promote health and active management of illness when it strikes. There are many ways to regularly practice self-care through food choices, exercise, sleep and dental care. For example, dental care, yeah, that's a form of self-care. Also going to get your annual visits are a form of self-care. I say drinking enough water is a form of self-care, like self-care can be free.

Brad Crowell 2:42  

 I think the doctor's office visit thing is a big deal, you know, like. 

Lesley Logan 2:46  

Because it's so hard to get the appointment. It's so easy to ignore them. It's taken four people to get me a doctor's appointment.

Brad Crowell 2:53  

Yeah, it's a, it's like a, it's a rabbit hole, right? And that's, that's half the problem is, like, you always have to start with your GP and then your GPS refer you to these other places and lalalalala whatever. But the point is that that, like, it's, it's, um, you know, it's a multiple step. It's such a multi-step process, and there's so much time between that. Like, it just feels like one of the things, you're like, I'll get to it eventually. 

Lesley Logan 3:15  

Yeah. And then eventually you're like, oh, shit, it's been, like, a few years on. 

Brad Crowell 3:16  

Yeah, it's been years. 

Lesley Logan 3:16  

But if you do The Artist's Way, one of an artist states could be actually, like, making your doctor's appointments because they're so hard to do. They're not normal, right, just, like, to do. Anyways, if you are in the U.S. and you're trying to navigate your way through this shithole of a healthcare system, I see you, I hear you. Everyone gets to pick a cause in this world, and if that's gonna be yours, like, I will champion it with you. I'll highlight on your side. Like, I'm a big fan of dog rescues, but, like, I got a girlfriend who's we have a friend whose husband just had a random stroke. He's fucking our age. And she's stuck in another state, and she can't get, her insurance will cover the helicopter from Detroit to Denver, and she can't get Kaiser to just sign this one piece of paper. So they're stuck in a hospital for now, we're going on seven days waiting for someone to sign the piece of paper, and she's like, what do you have to do? I'm like, local news. That's we have to do, unfortunately, GoFundMe and local news. So anyways, self-care is going to your doctor's appointments. Take care of yourself. Also take care of yourself, because clearly, medical systems can't take care of you. So you got to care for yourself today. 

Brad Crowell 4:19  

You know, they're, they're, yes, they're, they can't take care of you, and there's, they're not going to be reliable in the near future either, so. 

Lesley Logan 4:19  

But if you hear an ad from FemGevity, I really do like them, and they are a great go-between, because they are the they actually answer my questions and they.

Brad Crowell 4:33  

But that's the irony. We're talking about a third party company, not the healthcare system. 

Lesley Logan 4:39  

Right, right, right, right. 

Brad Crowell 4:40  

And they better have their shit together. And yes, they do, and good for them for that. But also, what the fuck that it takes this to have that.

Lesley Logan 4:48  

Yeah, no, I have, I had to go pay on somehow on top of what I already paid for to get the help. But you know what? It's cheaper than being sick. So here, and also, like it has helped me. They've helped with my hormone therapy. They helped with my sleep. They helped with my digestion. So that's an act of self-care. So anyways, that got became a healthcare self-care day. But we'll, we'll move on. 

Lesley Logan 5:07  

Today, we are back from our tour, and we are getting ready to go to the U.K. 

Brad Crowell 5:13  

Oh, wait, there's one more self-care I wanted to talk about. 

Lesley Logan 5:15  

Oh, what? 

Brad Crowell 5:16  

OPC. 

Lesley Logan 5:17  

Oh, OPC is absolutely a great way to. 

Brad Crowell 5:19  

You could use the internet to take class and get you movement in on onlinepilatesclasses.com. 

Lesley Logan 5:24  

I just want to give OPC a shout out in amazing way. So, in today's world where everyone's trying to sell you on some gimmick bullshit of what Pilates is, Pilates arms, and how you have to look a certain way, fuck that at OPC, we will never sell you on weight loss. We will never tell you that you have to get that Pilates will make your bio look a certain way, but we will make you strong as fuck and make sure you have the longevity for the life you want to live. You will have so much support. If you only take five minutes of a class, we will still cheer you on and championship you. If you miss a week, you're like, oh my god, I missed it. We were like, That's okay. You're here today. Like you have unconditional constant support of people, a bunch of women and a few good men, constantly supporting you, no matter what you look like, where you're at in your practice, how old you are, what you can do. 

Brad Crowell 6:07  

A community is great. 

Lesley Logan 6:09  

It's freaking awesome. And I am pissed off this week over recording this. It's obviously a different week than you're listening to it, but if you were on my Instagram, I'm so pissed off at the way people think they can talk about women's bodies and what a body is supposed to look like, and Pilate Arms and the New York fucking Times did a whole episode on Pilates arms, episode, article and the opinion page on Pilates arms. 

Brad Crowell 6:31  

Did they really? 

Lesley Logan 6:31  

And, yes, they did. And then, because I can't read, it's behind a paywall and I'm too pissed to give him money, they tried to attribute it to political beliefs. Let me explain you right now. There's no such thing as Pilates arm so there's no way in hell, Pilates can be a right or left situation, but if you have arms, you can do Pilates. Congratulations. Pilates arms. Correlation is not causation, like people try to use Jennifer Aniston as like, oh, Jennifer Aniston's arms is because of Pilates. No. Jennifer Aniston's arms are because she's Jennifer Aniston, who happens to do Pilates. You like anyways, so at OPC, we'll never sell you on that ship, because that they're lying to you. We are honest people about Pilates being here for your longevity, for the health of it, for the self-care of it. So anyway, okay, I'll get off.

Brad Crowell 6:32  

Especially the self-care of it. So love that. 

Lesley Logan 7:05  

Get off my high horse. 

Brad Crowell 7:19  

September is coming and we're going to be in the U.K. We're very excited to be coming back. It's been two years since we've been there. We're going to be in two locations, we're going to be in Leeds, we're going to be in Essex. So if that is near you, or if you know anyone who's in the area, even if they have to drive a couple of hours, we're flying halfway across the world to be there. We'd love to meet them.

Lesley Logan 7:39  

We're actually driving all the way to Essex. 

Brad Crowell 7:42  

We, we are, we are driving. We're driving all the way up to Scotland and all the way back down to Essex.

Lesley Logan 7:48  

Yes and we don't even drive on that side of the road. So you can get on a train.

Brad Crowell 7:53  

We'll be driving for more than 20 hours in the U.K.

Lesley Logan 7:55  

You can fly from Europe to see us. Okay?

Brad Crowell 7:59  

I agree. 

Lesley Logan 7:59  

No excuses. 

Brad Crowell 8:00  

Go to opc.me/uk opc.me/uk and then in October, we're going to be at Pilates On Tour in Chicago, in Burr Ridge. 

Lesley Logan 8:11  

Burr Ridge. It's in Chicago Land, specifically, Brad. And do you know what's really funny is, people are like there's no such thing as Chicago Land. But then Rachel Maddow goes, I love Chicago because it has this thing called Chicago Land. And I was like, it's a thing. We'll be in Burr Ridge. It's the sexiest part of Chicago. You know it. Anyways, last week, so, last week, when we recorded this, so a month ago, more than a month ago, it was 75% sold out. So don't wait to get your tickets. Like, you can get a day pass. You can get a weekend pass. 

Brad Crowell 8:38  

I mean, there might only be those left. 

Lesley Logan 8:40  

Yeah. So the day pass, I'm teaching the Joe's Gyms. We're gonna have a booth. Yeah, it's also our 10th year wedding anniversary, so come celebrate with us. 

Brad Crowell 8:48  

Oh, actually, literally, that weekend. 

Lesley Logan 8:49  

Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the first, first time we'll get on a plane while the time changes, and we miss it all together. So, so check it out. Just Google POT Chicago, and the link is way too long. They didn't give us a short one. Then we're going to be in Cambodia, and you can join us go to crowsnestretreats.com. I mean, you can literally sign up even as close to two weeks before the retreat, because it's Cambodia.

Brad Crowell 8:49  

Or if you're coming from Singapore or Australia, it's really easy, you know, yeah, we'd love to come have you. Come join us at crowsnestretreats.com.

Lesley Logan 9:18  

Also October, because my team just thinks I'll just work every day. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. There's days off, don't worry. There's days off. We are going on making a Singapore event happen, because it's very rare that we have a layover during the daytime. So we have a layover during the daytime, and so we can do an event at Singapore. So reach out to us about that. And then our winter tour is going to be in December. It's going to be humongous and we'll announce this in the fall. 

Brad Crowell 9:43  

Yes, it is, this one's going to be even bigger than last year, and I'm already we're already planning it right now, in the summer, we're already planning it. We're going to be opening the doors to all that stuff in October, so. 

Lesley Logan 9:57  

While we're, while we're off around the world, you can be signing up for that winter tour, so make sure you watch out for that. Okay, before we get into Sarah Rhoads, we have a question to answer. 

Brad Crowell 10:08  

We sure did. Yeah, this is from a friend, Hilary Billings. She DM-ed you and said hey, do you like your weight vest? Needing to get one but I can't figure out what size or configuration would make most sense for me. I also don't want to look ridiculous, but I think I might just have to get over that.

Lesley Logan 10:23  

Yeah, so I do have a link to, here's the deal, it's not a, it's not a sexy company. You're gonna have to buy it on Amazon. But I have the link to the one I like, so.

Brad Crowell 10:32  

We'll put that in the show notes. 

Lesley Logan 10:33  

Check the show notes. Okay, I think. 

Brad Crowell 10:36  

Why do you like the one that one? What is it about it that makes it, I know we've gone through a couple.

Lesley Logan 10:41  

Yeah, so we're going back to the one I like, because the one that I have, I don't, I don't like the one that I have currently, and that's what I told her, so I like the one I had before, but I traded with Sue, because her husband bought her a 20-pound vest. She's not 100 pounds, guys. So, so here's the information about a weighted vest. You want one that's around 10% maybe 15% of your body weight, okay, so that's what you want. And there's a company that is called, like, Omorpho, and I'm trying to get. 

Brad Crowell 11:10  

Is this the one that you shared with her? 

Lesley Logan 11:12  

I tried to note I didn't share that with her. I try, I have an affiliate to that, and I don't like the vests are sexy and they're useless. It is two pounds or four pounds for women, and then six or eight pounds for men, what? And they're $300 so don't buy that one until I tell you to which is when they I said oh, I'll promote your vest when you have a weighted vest that actually makes sense with science. So it's beautiful, sexy, not ridiculous-looking, a waste of $300 and it doesn't even do what you need to do. So the vest that I like honestly, between the weight that you're getting, it's like between $30 and $60 it's not expensive. Where I think people have to be considerate is if they have chest abundance, if you have chest abundance, you might want to look at the one that I currently have, which I couldn't find online, but I'll tell you what it looks like. It has bungee cords on the sides. I think it's a men's one. It has bungee cords on the side so it works and it's longer. So if you have boobs, because the bungee cords can be loosened, and because it's longer, it can go across the boobs, yes. The one that we'll put in the link to the show notes, is the one I like. I can't, I can't attest to the chest abundance, because I don't have it. But why I like it is, it's actually short, more like a crop, and so it's not going all in on my lower back. I didn't, I don't like that, because my lower back then sweats. It's, it is the weight feels more distributed around my whole body. This one that I have just feels like it's very much on my shoulders. But maybe it's because I don't have boobs. Maybe if I had boobs. 

Brad Crowell 12:43  

No, I think it's also that it's too heavy. 

Lesley Logan 12:44  

It's also mine's too heavy. It's 20 pounds, and I really should be on a 16 pound weighted vest. So, Brad, congratulations, you have a vest, and that's exactly what you wanted. 

Brad Crowell 12:53  

It's more than 10% of my body weight, so. 

Lesley Logan 12:56  

20 pounds, it is. It's like, yeah, it is, unfortunately. I don't know who's gonna get it, but, but I'm new with a 16 pound one, I would say, like most people, should start with that 12 to 15 pound, if that's 10% if you're like, oh, that sounds really heavy. 15 pounds, start with a 10 to 12. You can all they'll last forever. Just give them to a friend who wants to start it like it just make, create an exchange, like a book club, you know. But check the show notes. I really like wearing mine on morning walks, because here's the deal, my dog walks now that I have a whoop man, that shows me how literally useless a dog walk is on your health. Like, of course, it's lovely. It's nice you're outside. 

Brad Crowell 13:35  

But you are getting steps so there's movement actually. 

Lesley Logan 13:36  

And you're getting steps. It's so great for that second heart, but it is doing zero on the strain that you can put on your body. And so adding the weight vest kind of intensifies the walk by about 15% so if you are looking for adding that intensity, maybe you're a really busy person, it's really good. Apparently, there is some science around how it's really good if you are perimenopausal, menopausal, and increasing bone density, strength, like that, all those things, I can't tell you, but Dr. Mclaire has done a post about it. And then there's a guy, something Easter, Adam or David Easter, he's in a whole post about it. So if you're really curious, take a look at those things. But I just personally like it because it really challenged me to sit up really tall. I can't. 

Brad Crowell 14:03  

It kind of forces you to you can't be leaning over when you got a weighted vest on. You can't be slouching. You feel it. 

Lesley Logan 14:23  

You should wear a weighted vest while it's pod, maybe I won't move all around the place, driving Brad crazy.

Brad Crowell 14:27  

I don't believe it. All right. Well, if you have a question, you could text us at 310-905-5534, or if you don't want to text, you can just go to beitpod.com/questions and you could submit either a win or your question. 

Lesley Logan 14:41  

And we want your wins. 

Brad Crowell 14:42  

We do want your wins because of our Friday episode, share something that you're really proud of yourself for, you know, like, it's, don't worry, it's not bragging.

Lesley Logan 14:50  

If you're like, I can't do it, then share a friend's win, and then you'll crack the seal, and then you can share your own,

Brad Crowell 14:55  

Yeah, let's go, let's go. Pull out your phone right now. Go to beitpod.com/questions. 

Lesley Logan 14:55  

Your win can literally be that you took a walk this morning. 

Brad Crowell 14:59  

Yeah, I want to see, I want to see some wins next week.

Lesley Logan 15:05  

If you've ever woken up on the wrong side of the bed, it's like, and then you go for the walk, like, the win is that you didn't let that keep you from, like, making the day a better day, just saying.

Brad Crowell 15:15  

You got this. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this amazing convo you have with Sarah Rhoads about some really cool shoes that she's been making. 

Brad Crowell 15:24  

Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Sarah Rhoads. Sarah is a photographer-turned-entrepreneur and the founder of Commbi Footwear. After a successful career shooting for top brands like Keds and building a creative campaign, building creative campaigns with her husband, she made a bold pivot into footwear design to solve a problem she's personally faced. Together, she and her husband developed a modular supported shoe system. Even taught himself AutoCAD to help to prototype their designs, and we're gonna talk more about it because they're fun. But Sarah is actually a mom of three and a firm believer in curiosity and alignment. Her story is a master class in vision, grit and reinvention, and it was a really fun conversation. Yeah, she's very bubbly. 

Lesley Logan 16:11  

I just like her. She's also adorbs. I hope to meet her in person. So these shoes came on my radar. And I like, you know, if you listen to this pod long enough, you know, like, I love to be cookied. I just think it's the greatest thing. Because, like, sometimes you want something but you don't know you like that. You don't want to buy it right now, and sometimes you wanted to see it a few times to see, like, do I really want this? Like, do I miss it? So anyways, I'd interviewed the Gait Happens people, and they, like, slammed on our Birkenstocks, and it was like, a B minus. 

Brad Crowell 16:34  

It wasn't a slam. 

Lesley Logan 16:35  

Well, it was a B minus. Brad. 

Brad Crowell 16:38  

I listened to that episode, she said, she said. 

Lesley Logan 16:43  

B minus. 

Brad Crowell 16:43  

She said they're not, they're not the best, they're not the worst. It was a B, in the B.

Lesley Logan 16:48  

But also, it was a B minus. 

Brad Crowell 16:49  

She said that the problem with them was that they're too stiff, they really help with forming your foot, but then, like, there's never any give, so it's training your foot not to actually work. 

Lesley Logan 16:59  

Right So they actually are not doing the things that they say they're gonna do. So then I saw Commbi, and I saw these girls doing these ads, like how they wear them and how they use them, I was like, wow, that's really cool. I think this could solve the world's problems on, like, the footwear thing. And also they're much cuter, right? They're like, not so they're much sexier. 

Brad Crowell 17:16  

But what makes, why Commbi? What is Commbi about Commbi?

Lesley Logan 17:16  

But then I so, anyways, so then I ordered a pair. Okay, so order a pair during the winter, ordered some sandals, ordered the pair, and then I took a picture with them. And I, oh, I actually, I asked a question. I said, oh, when are the shearlings gonna come back? And the owner, Sarah, DM-ed me right away. Hi. This is the owner. We're out of stock on those right now. But like, here, I'll get back to you da-da. And I was like, whoa. She does her DMs like, I do my DMs. I like this person as a person, right like, now, now I'm past the company. Now I'm into the person. Then I got the shoes, took a picture in Palm Springs, and she's like, oh my gosh. She started chatting back and forth. And then I was like, looking at her story, and I'm like, I want her on the Be It Pod, because, like, if this isn't a be it till you see it story, like, I don't know what is, right, like, she's not a shoe person, she's not podiatrist, she's a photographer, and she, like, created a shoe. So now, what is what is it? I mean.

Brad Crowell 18:13  

Why is it called Commbi? Who? What? That's a weird name for the shoe, unless you understand what the shoe can do. 

Lesley Logan 18:19  

So speak so to answer, why was I asking about shearling? Because you can take the sh, you know how, like, Uggs have that, like, shearling bed, and then you wear it a few times, and then it gets matted and nasty. Well, her shoe, you can take that shearling bed out, and you could put a terry cloth bed in. You could put. 

Brad Crowell 18:36  

It's the bed of the shoe. 

Lesley Logan 18:36  

The bed of the shoe. 

Brad Crowell 18:36  

The bed, the sole of the shoe splits in two, and the bottom of shoe stays, and then the sole itself, the inside of the shoe can come off.

Lesley Logan 18:47  

If you, like, there's, there's definitely something in the 80s fashion that, like, this is absolutely something we've done, like, it's like a mix and match, it's a combination, right? Like, the mix and you can mix and match the beds of the of the shoe. And now I have like, five beds, and I mix and match them all the time. In fact, the last DM we have because I had a fly to Stockton for like 17 hours. And for flight, I wore the terry cloth because, you know, like, sometimes you're hot, sometimes you're cold. So I wore the terry cloth took the beds out, threw them in my purse. I only had an overnight bag because I was wearing the same outfit twice. Put the red the red leather beds in look dressy for the dinner party. Went back to my hotel, put the red leather up, put it in my purse, put the terry cloth on, flew home and nice and comfort like a slipper. So anyways, like I'm just obsessed, and she's so cool. So let's talk about her, because it's not an ad for her shoe. We make no money on them. 

Brad Crowell 19:39  

That's true. 

Lesley Logan 19:40  

She said, when my curiosity really is piqued and I feel scared and terrified, I usually know that as a thing I need to go after, and I resonate with that so much like we resist, like what we resist will persist, and like you have to kind of go through the fear to get to where you want to go. And she highlighted the hardest part of her pivot was getting over her self-limiting beliefs. I mean, like, can you imagine, like, being a photographer, a very established photographer, like fucking Taylor Swift, guys, Keds, all this stuff, and she's like, I'm gonna do my own shoe. And like, products are so hard. Product business is so hard.

Brad Crowell 20:17  

She said she flew to China to meet with her the manufacturing company, and there was a problem with the design, and so she bought a one-way ticket because she said I'm not coming back until we've figured out the solution. 

Lesley Logan 20:33  

Yeah, yeah. So, because the and.

Brad Crowell 20:36  

By the way, most shoes are made in China. That's where all the factories are for this kind of stuff, same with socks.

Lesley Logan 20:48  

Everything is made there, so. Except for our flashcards apparently,

Brad Crowell 20:48  

Well, we could. We have the choice. 

Lesley Logan 20:48  

We have the choice. 

Brad Crowell 20:46  

We do have a company in Florida for those. But. 

Lesley Logan 20:48  

Yeah, there are, like, some clothing brands that we've had Ripley Rader on, and there's some other ones that they can make their clothes in the US. However, you need to understand that there's not a single zipper made in the United States.

Brad Crowell 20:58  

Right. So, like, parts of it are still being imported. And like, yeah.

Lesley Logan 21:02  

Yeah. But, but she, I want to just keep going. Like she just the perseverance and like, she put a quote on her iPhone lock screen that says what if you have what it takes? And I really love this. I like, need it somewhere I can see it all the time. What if you have what it takes? And so I think, like, what she kind of obsesses about is like, I'm deeply curious about what the edges of my ability, what am I capable of? 

Brad Crowell 21:25  

What are the edges? 

Lesley Logan 21:26  

What are the edges? And to find that out, I have to go to the edge of my fear and look over it. And I think like to to for you first all to be it till we see it, it's going to require us to face our fear and look at it and believe we have what it takes. Because you gotta dress for who you wanna be, you gotta act for who you wanna be, you gotta make decisions for who you wanna be, even though you're not there yet.

Brad Crowell 21:48  

I bet you that. So, so I relate to this in the sense of, like, being on stage, and you know, when you're on stage as a big group, you can hide. When you're on stage and you're the front, at the front, it, you can't hide. And or if you're the only person you know, and I bet you that most Pilates teachers who have done a group class the first few times were really intimidating, right? Where you have to be up in front of a bunch of people speaking, right? And at first that was probably like, something that that was a little bit scary, but over time, you start to get through it right. And that, I think that's the kind of fear that she was talking about that like, you know, one thing that I really loved, that she said was, everything is working out for my greater good. Everything is working out for us, right? She and her husband, they say this daily to themselves, especially when challenges show up. This is like their their mantra, and they they genuinely believe that this helps to shift the focus away from the challenges that are impacting their businesses, which always happen, always. Challenges just seem to come by, right? So, but when you're focusing on the positive, that's one of the things that we that we challenge all of our members inside of Agency as well. Hey, when you're going to ask a question about a problem you have before you do that, you have to celebrate a win or to tell something that you're grateful for, right? And the reason is the same here. When you focus that everything is working out for us, everything is working out for my greater good, when you focus on those things, you're more apt to see those things when you when you say to yourself, everything is shit. I hate it all, you're just going to see all the things that are shit. You hate it all. We talked about this before. I can't remember what episode, but it was like, count the number. Like, if you say, if you look at something blue, and you say, blue, right? You look at blue and look at red.

Lesley Logan 23:26  

Oh, that's actually an episode that's coming out. It's Brad Bizjack. I don't think he we talked about that. 

Brad Crowell 23:31  

No, no, yeah, but you and I talked about it before. And, like, all of a sudden, you know, you start to see all the things that are red, or all the things that are blue, because you've focused on them. So it's the same exact idea here. And I just, I love that. I think it's great, you know. And she said that, you know, the other thing with, with being an entrepreneur, she said, sometimes you tackle something and it doesn't, it seems like a dud. Oh, I started this whole conversation with these people about this thing, and then nothing ever came to it, or, you know, whatever, whatever. And, like, you know, it seems like, where do I put my time and all the things? And she said, hey, everything leads to everything. Everything leads to everything, right? So being part of an entrepreneur is being someone who has an appetite for adventure, being, you know, being willing to explore. She said, there's no trail, no map, you're just kind of in the woods with the machete, right? And it's you're out there trying to figure it all out. And every time you make a new connection, you know, you might not have any like, reciprocation from that action today, but there will, you know, like, eventually things can are connected. It comes back. 

Lesley Logan 24:30  

Also, like sometimes, like just having a conversation that hits a dead end, allows you to get more comfortable with an idea that you might have had fear around. And then when you have it with a different person, you have a whole different perspective, because you it's not the first time you're voicing it. I always tell some of our Agency members, I was like, I taught a woman, she took a first time session with me during a time that a client was on vacation, so I didn't normally have that time. The client's only on vacation for one week, but she she came in for a first time session, and none of my other times worked out for her. And so I actually had to refer her to a friend. But do you want to know something? Love me so much. She sent me a ton of clients. Everything is everything. So she didn't, and why didn't she send to my friend who she took one, I don't know, but she sent me them. And the point is, like, don't go oh, I'm not gonna teach that person. I'm not gonna take that because, like, I'm only available this one time. It's like, just go have the conversation. You can always be like, that was really cool. Here's this other person, like, I'm someone who, like, sometimes sets to hermit. I get a little overwhelmed. So I totally understand if you're like, I don't want to go do that, but like, you have to say it's to all of the things. But try it. Try just going like, you know, if you normally say no to 80% of opportunities, maybe, maybe say yes to like, 35% and just like start to get warmed up with that muscle and have some fun with it, because it does lead to everything.

Brad Crowell 25:46  

Everything leads to everything. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we got more gold coming down from Sarah Rhoads, in the Be It Action Items. We'll be right back. 

Brad Crowell 25:56  

All right, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Sarah Rhoads? She said stick with it. Stick it out, right? And you two are having this really fun conversations about, you know, the overnight success of the actor and like, having lived in Los Angeles, we are very aware that, like, it's a slow, long road to it's very, very rare that someone is like an overnight success in the real sense of that.

Lesley Logan 26:30  

There's a really cool book that's that I just heard about where this, I forget the name won't come to me, but he literally, like the little like the tagline is, like, my 20 years to overnight success.

Brad Crowell 26:40  

Right, exactly. Yeah. I mean, that's the joke, right? That's the running joke. And you were talking about behind the scenes, right? The building phase. It's truly one of the hardest phases, because no one can actually see what you're doing. And she said that they just launched their company last, end of last year, but they've been working on it for three, right? And she said.

Lesley Logan 26:58  

Oh, yeah. I mean, like, I saw the ads. I'm like, oh, my God, they're a huge company. She's DM-ing me and her husband emails customer support, so. 

Brad Crowell 27:06  

They're both working. They answer everything, right? She said, it's really hard to do the work, the building phase work, and because, because no one around you can see the vision or the or the results of where it's going to be, where it's gonna go, and you have it in your head, right? And sometimes it's hard to convince other people that this is gonna be the thing. It's gonna be amazing, but, you know it will be, and that's, that's the thing. You have to trust yourself, right? She said, really good things are on the other side of the building phase of when you're able to finally open the doors, get, you know, launch your product, or introduce your book, or whatever it might be, like, the amount of prep time it takes to do it right, you know, you have to be able to believe in yourself and so.

Lesley Logan 27:52  

Yeah, I mean, I think the key thing, and I was like, oh, do you trust yourself? Like, do you? So she said, knowing deep in your soul that everything's working out for you, and knowing that anyone can do anything, what a be it, like, anyone can do anything. So why can't you do the thing you want to do? Because anyone can do anything. And she emphasized the importance of protecting autonomy pretty fiercely to avoid burnout. I'm gonna just say fiercely. Protect your autonomy fiercely. One of the reasons I see people burn out is they don't protect their autonomy. They they are afraid of losing a client or of pissing off a friend, so they just say yes to all these things, and their schedule is not their own. Their schedule is being formed by other people's schedules. And it's like the whole idea, like, if you don't have goals, someone else has goals for you. If you don't protect your autonomy, someone else will make sure your schedule is theirs. It's how it's gonna go. 

Brad Crowell 28:38  

It's true. 

Lesley Logan 28:42  

She prioritizes self-care through specific regular habits. She's also part of an amazing book club, and she makes time for it, and I think that is so cool. She hikes and gets outside nature three days a week. She stays connected to make things that make her feel alive, not just what makes money. And she advised trusting yourself and believing yourself. So with that, trust keeps coming up. You guys, let me just remind you three children, and they're not older. When I asked her, I'm pretty sure they were, like, under 10. So like, young.

Brad Crowell 29:10  

The kids, yeah, I think the oldest, I'm pretty sure, actually, now I don't remember. But yeah, they're not old.

Lesley Logan 29:15  

I don't think not a single one of them can drive themselves anywhere. So here's what my point being like this is a mom and a business owner who works with her husband, and if she can protect her autonomy fiercely, you can do it. You can do it. Yes, it's hard. Yes, people are gonna get pissed off because you're changing the boundaries on them. You're changing the rules they will get over it because you're gonna be a funner person to be around. That's just what I think. Sarah Rhoads, you are amazing. I love you so much. I hope we can be friends.

Brad Crowell 29:48  

Me too.

Lesley Logan 29:48  

I hope she's, what if she's listening? Well, anyways, I'm Lesley Logan. 

Brad Crowell 29:54  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 29:55  

Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. Go check her out, and if anything, let her be an inspiration to what you can do. You can change your career anytime, because you're curious and you believe in yourself, and Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 30:08  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 30:10  

Oh, we didn't tell. 

Brad Crowell 30:11  

Oh, we got a secret for y'all. 

Lesley Logan 30:14  

We have a secret. 

Brad Crowell 30:15  

Yeah, we got a surprise. 

Lesley Logan 30:16  

I don't know how. Don't let them go too way soon. You guys, Commbi has given us a secret discount code for you. BEIT10. 

Brad Crowell 30:25  

BEIT10. 

Lesley Logan 30:26  

Yeah, get 10% off your shoes. And if you're like, what? Yeah, no, she just gave it to me, and I love it. I've used it. I have four pairs already. Don't worry, I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna wear them all this weekend in L.A. They're so comfortable. I'm quite (inaudible).

Brad Crowell 30:40  

Clearly she said that they they are even making them for men. 

Lesley Logan 30:43  

They have men's shoes. I showed them to you. Yes, I know we gotta, we gotta work them out, babe. 

Brad Crowell 30:46  

We gotta work them out. 

Lesley Logan 30:48  

We gotta get you switched over. Yeah, there's men's collection. 

Brad Crowell 30:52  

They're pretty cool. 

Lesley Logan 30:53  

They're really cool. 

Brad Crowell 30:54  

Yeah, they look good. 

Lesley Logan 30:55  

I, really obsessed. I literally wear them all the time. I don't even put, I like, I used to be a tennis shoes person always. Now I'm like, slipping on my Commbis to go outside to get the mail, because, holy fuck, the sidewalk is hot, so I gotta put them on. And I just love them. And my toe spacers from Gait Happens fit on my toes while I'm wearing my Commbis, which is essential. That's a couple plugs All right. Now you can go, Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 31:20  

See you next time, y'all.

Lesley Logan 31:22  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 32:04  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 32:09  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 32:14  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 32:21  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 32:24  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley Logan 32:37  

Oh, it's, where's my phone? It's on Instagram. 

Brad Crowell 32:40  

It's on the gram the Instagram.

Lesley Logan 32:52  

All right, I'm here. 

Brad Crowell 32:53  

You're here. 

Lesley Logan 32:53  

Can we go? 

Brad Crowell 32:54  

Can just sit how you're gonna sit. Okay, you gonna sit over there, or you gonna sit on the other side? Where are you gonna sit? This isn't a merry go round. 

Lesley Logan 33:08  

I'm gonna sit right here. We need a couch. 

Brad Crowell 33:11  

I'm gonna adjust the sofa. This is the sofa. I've adjusted the sofa. Here we go. We do need a couch. That'd be fun. I'd love to change up our setup.

Lesley Logan 33:22  

I know I want to go to Joy Bird. I want one of their cute couches.

Brad Crowell 33:26  

I'd love to get, like, a wide shot and a. Joy Bird, what? 

Lesley Logan 33:31  

Oh, look up Joy bird's couches, amazing.

Brad Crowell 33:34  

Well, we'll get there, but I want to actually, like make the lounge vibe. That'd be cool. 

Lesley Logan 33:38  

Yeah, this is not the vibe anymore. 

Brad Crowell 33:40  

Yeah, I'm in on change. All right, cool. Here we go.

Lesley Logan 33:44  

We could do wallpaper instead of this.

Brad Crowell 33:48  

We could, but I think we should actually have like, different backgrounds so that you could have one for Profitable Pilates, one for this, one for that.

Lesley Logan 33:56  

What if we did walls? What if this is the Be It wall that was the Profitable Pilates wall? 

Brad Crowell 33:56  

And we just like, rotate, like. 

Lesley Logan 33:56  

Yeah, we just rotate the chairs. 

Brad Crowell 34:12  

Like the whole floor, like. 

Lesley Logan 34:14  

Yeah, oh, they could just, like, press a button.

Lesley Logan 34:22  

No bad ideas on a brainstorm. 

Brad Crowell 34:24  

She can't help herself. Literally cannot help herself. 

Lesley Logan 34:29  

I'm ready. 

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