Jason Jacobs, former founder of Runkeeper, pursued being an entrepreneur with passion and maniacal focus. After starting Runkeeper at age 30, he now finds himself on the other side at 41 post-acquisition, finally reflecting back on the last decade of work. Knowing that he wants to experience building the next company differently, in a more healthy way and with more joy, Jason talks with Jerry about the conundrum of getting lost and consumed in the fire of work. And, how to dive into his work without being so unhappy. At this mid-life juncture of Jason's time before his "Second Act," they take the opportunity to pause and unpack deeply held notions about how work must be, what success is, and what it means to lead a fulfilling life. Links "The Problem of the Potter" - https://www.themonsterinyourhead.com/2010/01/31/disappearing-into-the-fire/