Erin Frey and Ti Zhao are the co-founders of Kip - an app which aids in locating a quality therapist and helps you measure your progress. In this episode they sit down with Jerry to talk about what makes them tick and how they work together as leaders. This includes emotional literacy and helping each other regulate when tough issues arise. What does your cofounder (or partner) do when they are scared, angry, sad, triggered? Do you know what they need in that moment? Making time to discover the operating instructions for your partner solidifies not only your communication with each other, but also, as Jerry notes, tending to good communication sets culture, direction, and creates the conditions in which raising capital is enhanced. Links Kip - Smarter Therapy - https://www.hellokip.com/ Erin Frey - https://twitter.com/erinfrey Ti Zhao - https://twitter.com/ti_am_i