In this episode, Jess returns to her conversation with a couple Donna and Alex, who are Jess’s listeners from Florida, creators of a blog called Swinging Through the Ages. Donna and Alex talk about how they have been navigating being swingers for decades and how they managed it without ever coming out to their children. Jess, Donna, and Alex discuss parenthood and if Florida is the most lifestyle state. They talk about their travel plans 

and why they carry upside-down pineapples on their luggage. 

In this episode of Open Late:

• Lifestyle swingers and keeping it private

• Upside-down Pineapple and meeting life-long friends

• Is Florida the most lifestyle-friendly state?

• Wearing wedding bands on the right hand

• Open-minded parenting and knowing your children

Connect with Donna and Alex:

• Website: http://swingingthroughtheages.com

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Quotes from the episode:

If you can talk openly about your sexuality, and you realize the baseline is somewhere deep, then it is easy to develop such a meaningful friendship. – Jessica Esfandairy

It is human nature, and we all tend to be secretive about it. – Jessica Esfandiary

We are constantly looking for swingers in the wild. The upside-down pineapple is a sign. – Alex

We had a very private swimming pool that was clothing optional. Our kids knew that we were not wearing bathing suits if they were not there. – Alex

I recommend that couples should try dating separately. – Jessica Esfandiary

We experience real happiness, seeing the other one happy. -Alex

I really like how much she enjoyed being with another guy…. And her glow-up afterwards! - Alex

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