Joe talks to Michelle May, a psychotherapist, author, and expert in Intensive Short-Term Dynamic Psychotherapy (ISTDP). ISTDP is highly tailored to the client, and, as Michelle tells Joe, is about "getting to things as quickly as your (the client's) body can tolerate." The therapist relates to their client based on the client's emotional capacity, moment by moment. Joe discusses his own theoretical trainings and practices and is so inspired by Michelle's expertise that he is thinking about getting trained in ISTDP himself.

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Michelle's web site: https://michellemmaylpc.com/

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Michelle's forthcoming book, available now for pre-order, is called What I Couldn’t Tell My Therapist: The Truths We Told to Heal Our Lives

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