Dr Kirk interviews his old friend, Chris Huber, about the psychopath who scammed them both.

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00:00 Introducing Chris Huber
01:20 Befriending Sam
27:44 Was Sam charming?
30:58 Sam's cancer
42:44 The cult of Sam
52:19 When did it take a turn? 
1:05:35 Unraveling the lies
1:23:11 The aftermath
1:31:03 Sam's M.O. 
1:41:45 What could have gone differently? 
2:02:48 How does it feel to share the story?



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July 28, 2025

The Psychology In Seattle Podcast ®

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