In this episode of A Seat at the Table, Odessa “OJ” Jenkins, President at workplace compliance/HR tech start-up Emtrain, joins us. Although Jenkins’s background might not seem like an ideal fit for the role of a Silicon Valley president, she’s proof that breaking the mold isn’t a bad thing.

She’s a pioneer in women’s sports for founding and leading the nation’s biggest women’s tackle football league, but she also has enterprise software and HR/workplace chops through her past position as vice president of client success at YourCause, an enterprise software company that connects clients and employees to the global community through corporate social responsibility.

Listen in as we discuss how knowing who you are as an organization benefits your employees, the importance of belonging, defining inclusion in order to change it, and so much more.