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“We can shake our fist at it or we can ride the wave. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a scenario where someone’s shaken their fist at what’s developing and won. It doesn’t solve anything.” David Bates has built a career doing creative work for dynamic clients and adapting to significant shifts in the industry along the way. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast.

About David Bates

David Bates is the Managing Director of ATK PLN, a design-driven creative studio. He combines a background in brand strategy, design, and marketing for top brands including FOSSIL, Shinola, and Filson with the artistic vision of Executive Creative Director Jose Gomez to create engaging campaigns for clients such as Frito-Lay, Paramount Pictures, Mercedes, AT&T, Cinemark, and Warner Bros.

Episode Highlights

What does it mean to be design-driven? “Our business has evolved dramatically. In some cases, our clients became competitors.”

How can agencies adapt to challenges like clients taking work in-house and shifts in technology? “We can shake our fist at it or we can ride the wave. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a scenario where someone’s shaken their fist at what’s developing and won. It doesn’t solve anything.”

How do you market the movie business in the midst of COVID-19? “We work directly with movie studios—we become their hands and feet!” David says of ATK PLN. “There was an audible gasp” at the beginning of COVID. Now, David and his team work on all sorts of dynamic media for studios from social media to lower thirds on TV. He shared several stories during the podcast including a TikTok campaign they did for the movie Scoob.

A note of caution. David warned brands not to get caught in the “reactive mode” that social media and even COVID constraints can bring. Know who you are as a brand and work to communicate that as effectively as you can, everywhere that you can.

What brand has made David smile recently? David is a big fan of Howler Brothers for the way “they’ve blended their love of the outdoors with style.”

To learn more, go to the ATK PLN website.

As We Wrap …

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