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As I reflect on this conversation with Andrew Kilshaw, three questions stand out:
Who are you really trying to move?
What recipe are you missing?
Is AI saving you — or just augmenting you?
Andrew Kilshaw has led transformation inside organizations like Nike, Sanofi, BlackRock, and Shell, and now works at the intersection of change and AI. He brings both experience and perspective — someone who’s seen what actually works when theory meets reality.
If you lead change in a large organization, you already know this: not everyone is coming with you. Andrew Kilshaw offers a practical way to work with that reality, breaking the organization into thirds and making the case that your job isn’t to win everyone over, but to build a coalition that creates momentum.
We also push on a deeper assumption about transformation. Most organizations don’t lack capability — they lack coherence. The ingredients are already there: leadership, data, people, and intent. The challenge is connecting them into something that actually works.
And then there’s AI. Not as a silver bullet, but as a layer that amplifies what’s already happening — better decisions, better insight, better coordination. Used well, it creates capacity and clarity. Used poorly, it just adds more noise.
This is a conversation about focus, judgment, and where to put your energy when everything is already in motion.
Change Signal. Where transformational change leaders seek and find modern change wisdom. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works.
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By Michael Bungay Stanier5
2323 ratings
As I reflect on this conversation with Andrew Kilshaw, three questions stand out:
Who are you really trying to move?
What recipe are you missing?
Is AI saving you — or just augmenting you?
Andrew Kilshaw has led transformation inside organizations like Nike, Sanofi, BlackRock, and Shell, and now works at the intersection of change and AI. He brings both experience and perspective — someone who’s seen what actually works when theory meets reality.
If you lead change in a large organization, you already know this: not everyone is coming with you. Andrew Kilshaw offers a practical way to work with that reality, breaking the organization into thirds and making the case that your job isn’t to win everyone over, but to build a coalition that creates momentum.
We also push on a deeper assumption about transformation. Most organizations don’t lack capability — they lack coherence. The ingredients are already there: leadership, data, people, and intent. The challenge is connecting them into something that actually works.
And then there’s AI. Not as a silver bullet, but as a layer that amplifies what’s already happening — better decisions, better insight, better coordination. Used well, it creates capacity and clarity. Used poorly, it just adds more noise.
This is a conversation about focus, judgment, and where to put your energy when everything is already in motion.
Change Signal. Where transformational change leaders seek and find modern change wisdom. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works.
***
WHEN YOU’RE READY
🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!)
The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly
***
CONNECT
💼Connect on LinkedIn
***
SAY THANKS
💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts
💚Leave a review on Spotify

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