In this engaging conversation, Justin and Alex Papadopoulos delve into the world of ultra running, exploring Alex's journey from marathons to ultra marathons, the evolution of the sport, and the unique challenges of East Coast trails compared to their West Coast counterparts. They discuss the importance of grassroots events, the appeal of timed races for both newbies and seasoned runners, and the inspiration drawn from elite athletes. The conversation highlights the community aspect of trail running and the personal connections formed through shared experiences. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the evolving landscape of trail running, discussing the tension between grassroots and corporate races. They explore the importance of community, the impact of corporate involvement on race culture, and the drive behind starting a race company. The discussion also highlights initiatives aimed at empowering women in the sport, showcasing the need for inclusivity and support within the running community.